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    Quote Originally Posted by Makunouchi View Post
    Aside from the ones already mention...my money is with Sigit Budiarto.
    I have to agree. I think there's more ohhh's and awww's when he plays then anyone else.

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    lee chong wei and taufik of course

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    LCW on preparation stances, dives.
    TH on net play, backhand, overall court movement
    PG on deceptiveness

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    i would say that kkk/tbh are most innovative when they surprise us with unexpected losses....sometimes even making us fall off our seats...hehe...

    but lin dan is the most innovative player to me...his shots are simply unpredictable.... ( and we can't tell when will he punch the next person...haha)

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    Taufik learned many of his moves from his 1st top guru: Iie Sumirat, INA's #3 MS during the 1970s... Iie was one heck of a badminton artist! And such a great crowd pleaser! Taufik is a more athletic derivative of his guru... I would even argue that Iie was even more deceptive than Taufik. Iie is a charming guy and a pleasant guy to be with. He taught Taufik personally because he knew Taufik was a child prodigy...

    Unfortunately, Taufik also learned Iie's idiosyncracies [no respect for structure and authority, up & down motivation and discipline, and a penchant for pretty women]. Iie himself got married 8 times [until today]... He must have learned this from Elizabeth Taylor...

    Sigit was also inspired by Eddy Hartono, his older senior at Djarum Badminton Club. Eddy Hartono [a.k.a. Kempong] won the 1991 All England MD title and an older brother of Haryanto Arbi, the 1995 MS World Champ. Eddy also has a fascinating playing style. Just a bit overweight, ha ha.

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    ..skills and talent-wise, Taufik is indeed a prodigy...It's a combination Taufik's talents as well as Iie's teachings) as not all of Iie's past students can be as great as Taufik.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
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    Unfortunately, Taufik also learned Iie's idiosyncracies [no respect for structure and authority, up & down motivation and discipline, and a penchant for pretty women]. Iie himself got married 8 times [until today]... He must have learned this from Elizabeth Taylor...
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    ...i would say those are part of Iie's influence. Part of them could be from parental and/or social/friends upbringing/influences; or maybe Taufik himself. But let's hope the latter won't happen to Taufik (he sort of got into a bit of "hot water" early in his marriage)
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    for me MS: Taufik, Chen Hong, Peter Gade
    MD: Tony, Sigit, Lee Yong Dae

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    I will go for Xia Xuanze, Chen Hong & peter gade

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    I will go for Xia Xuanze, Chen Hong, Lee Chong Wei & peter gade

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..skills and talent-wise, Taufik is indeed a prodigy...It's a combination Taufik's talents as well as Iie's teachings) as not all of Iie's past students can be as great as Taufik.

    ...i would say those are part of Iie's influence. Part of them could be from parental and/or social/friends upbringing/influences; or maybe Taufik himself. But let's hope the latter won't happen to Taufik (he sort of got into a bit of "hot water" early in his marriage)
    if he dares marry more than 1 times (a poligami/ group marriage).. we know, where he will ends up

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    Quote Originally Posted by taufik-ist View Post
    if he dares marry more than 1 times (a poligami/ group marriage).. we know, where he will ends up
    do you mean
    polygamy?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy

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    Quote Originally Posted by taufik-ist View Post
    if he dares marry more than 1 times (a poligami/ group marriage).. we know, where he will ends up
    Haha..taufik will dare not,since he knows very well who is his father in law..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jchan04 View Post
    ya... correct, it's a polygamy

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    actually i think kenneth jonassen is the most innovative. because he one of the very few who plays defensive singles

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    ...taufik taufik taufik all the way...
    although sigit is also very innovative in his style of play...

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    GAO LING!! cuz win alot of OG medals.. haha n cuz she's cute..

    kk....

    i think kkk has it.. trick shots.. but all rounder, TG..

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    The thread is best innovative player, innovation means some new style or technique not seen before by players before.

    Innovative players doesn't mean creative players that is playes who during their matches can play variety of shots.

    In fact innovative players doesn't necessary mean they are the top players. Many innovative players' achievements can be quite mediocre.

    For instance the Diving retrieval wasnt innovated by LD like someone claimed here, it was first seen in MS by FOO KOK KEONG of Malaysia who practised diving cross court every day and use it to defend his matches. He use to dived a few times in one rally to prevent the shuttle from touching the floor.

    Most MS single from Malaysia uses it from Ong Ewe Hock. Yong Hock Kin and today LCW before it has become part of the repetoire of top MS today.

    As for the innovation of the 21st century, Ha-Kim and Lee - Yu played differently from others in that they used a lot powerful flat jabs and cross court pushes in their game.

    Sigit's game is creative but not innovative as most of his shots were combination of Rexy's smashing technique (which was innovative then) and Ricky's fast serves all developped from the late 80s training by Christian Hadinata.

    Taufik's game is creative but all his technique were seen in different MS champions in the 80s and 90s so I cant say he was innovative in that he brought a technique not seen before.

    LD's game in fact is the the standard flag bearer of the Chinese's technique that trace by to Thing Hien Hiow (aka Tang Xienhu) in the 60s and 70s (or should I say Indonesian innovation).

    Zhao Jian Hua was innovative but rarely seen in China's MS these days but you can see it applied by PG, Taufik and LCW although not consistently.

    I cant see anything innovative in today's players but most of whom are applying the innovations that were brought about by players in the 80s and 90s in the last century.

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