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    Quote Originally Posted by abedeng View Post
    Vanguard, this is the Thomas/Uber finals, not any regular tournament. Sweeping MD is the key to INA's target for success.

    In 1988 a green Susi Susanti failed to kill off China's great Han Aiping despite leading one game and with 5 matchpoints. I know, I was there ......

    Thus I have always had more faith in established players ...... you can experiment in the qualifiers but never in the finals. Whether Sutiyoso dislikes Luluk or not, it should not become personal to the detriment of INA's chances.
    But we are talking INA here, and Bang Yos is a cadidate for future Pres position . Powerful figures will get what they wants.

    Hopefully Luluk/Alvent will show him who's the boss by doing well in OG (unless he able to stop them from going as well).

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    No way he will stop them from competing in OG. Is he trying to give all the burden to MK/HS? Nonsense.

    Talking about politics, I wonder if Bang Yos will mention anything about badminton in his campaign. Will he even spare several percents from APBN to strengthen INA badminton if he DOES become RI 1?
    Last edited by Jagdpanther; 04-25-2008 at 07:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badadum View Post
    But we are talking INA here, and Bang Yos is a cadidate for future Pres position . Powerful figures will get what they wants.
    It's about the same here too in Malaysia, except that the jostling of positions is with regards of officials and coaches, not players. Our best and most forsighted BAM President ever was knocked out of office, remember? Not just that, witness the reasons for resignation of Morten Frost, Prof Park etc.

    Does Bang Yos think that his candidacy will be enhanced if INA TC squad underperforms?

    We need more transparency and removal of Politicians from heading sports bodies. What do they know, anyway?
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    I remember Rexy once said in a WC06 interview every Friday during training, the doubles can choose to pair with anyone. Hence, the Indonesian doubles players know each other inside out, and can be paired with anyone. He further said that in the 2000TC semis (I think, I am going off memory here) Rexy was paired with Tony, and the Danes were really happy because they have 2 frontcourt-men paired together. Rexy and Tony ended up owning them.

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    we must escape to play with ina ......better play with japan....therefor must beat korea in group match....

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    Quote Originally Posted by reiko80 View Post
    we must escape to play with ina ......better play with japan....therefor must beat korea in group match....
    If MAS able to avoid INA....in last 8.....they will have to face Chn in last 4..................MAS have 2 strong team in their path to final..........

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    Well if I am to choose INA's lineup against China I would just do a bit of a gamble...here it goes....

    TH v Lin Dan
    Simon Santoso v Bao
    Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan v Cai Yun-Fu Hai Feng
    Candra Wijaya-Nova Widianto v Guo Zen Dong-Xie Zongbo
    Tomy Sugiarto v Chen Jin

    INA to win 3-1.....well Simon has a chance against Bao

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    Thumbs up Taufik #2 MS

    I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but Sony is the no.1 MS player for INA . Taufik withdrew from the BAC/ABC on purpose so Sony could pass him on the ranking and make Taufik INA's no.2 MS player

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but Sony is the no.1 MS player for INA . Taufik withdrew from the BAC/ABC on purpose so Sony could pass him on the ranking and make Taufik INA's no.2 MS player
    Indeed it has in the very first post even ...

    This mislead me into thinking it was not known yet:

    d65up2 Well if I am to choose INA's lineup against China I would just do a bit of a gamble...here it goes....

    TH v Lin Dan
    Simon Santoso v Bao
    Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan v Cai Yun-Fu Hai Feng
    Candra Wijaya-Nova Widianto v Guo Zen Dong-Xie Zongbo
    Tomy Sugiarto v Chen Jin

    INA to win 3-1.....well Simon has a chance against Bao


    Interesting lineup but why like that? What will be the 1 loss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d65up2 View Post
    Well if I am to choose INA's lineup against China I would just do a bit of a gamble...here it goes....

    TH v Lin Dan
    Simon Santoso v Bao
    Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan v Cai Yun-Fu Hai Feng
    Candra Wijaya-Nova Widianto v Guo Zen Dong-Xie Zongbo
    Tomy Sugiarto v Chen Jin

    INA to win 3-1.....well Simon has a chance against Bao
    agree... if we meet china, ina must field TH as 1st MS... Th's chance of defeating lindan is bigger than sony's..

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    I don't think Simon has good chance beating Bao. His chance against CJ is much bigger IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by d65up2 View Post
    Well if I am to choose INA's lineup against China I would just do a bit of a gamble...here it goes....

    TH v Lin Dan
    Simon Santoso v Bao
    Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan v Cai Yun-Fu Hai Feng
    Candra Wijaya-Nova Widianto v Guo Zen Dong-Xie Zongbo
    Tomy Sugiarto v Chen Jin

    INA to win 3-1.....well Simon has a chance against Bao

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    Quote Originally Posted by d65up2 View Post
    Well if I am to choose INA's lineup against China I would just do a bit of a gamble...here it goes....

    TH v Lin Dan
    Simon Santoso v Bao
    Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan v Cai Yun-Fu Hai Feng
    Candra Wijaya-Nova Widianto v Guo Zen Dong-Xie Zongbo
    Tomy Sugiarto v Chen Jin

    INA to win 3-1.....well Simon has a chance against Bao
    A brave pick for FINALE but hard to see INA can win 3-1 with SDK elimination from players line-up and placing Simon as MS2.

    Simon vs BCL, 0-4 (taken from BWF head-to-head statistics record)

    I think PBSI certainly will play its main weapon to face CHN in final day, and the chance to win is still open for INA, line-up prediction as follows :

    MS1 -- SDK vs LD
    MD1 -- Kido/Setiawan vs Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng
    MS2 -- TH vs BCL (best hope for INA to steal point beside 2 MD pairs)
    MD2 -- Candra/Nova vs Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo
    MS3 -- Simon Santoso vs Chen Jin

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    Hm..just hope INA can go to final first.............anything can happen here...MAS/KOR can make our INA's life difficult....never ever underestimate your opponents...this is team event..different from individual...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLELY View Post
    A brave pick for FINALE but hard to see INA can win 3-1 with SDK elimination from players line-up and placing Simon as MS2.

    Simon vs BCL, 0-4 (taken from BWF head-to-head statistics record)

    I think PBSI certainly will play its main weapon to face CHN in final day, and the chance to win is still open for INA, line-up prediction as follows :

    MS1 -- SDK vs LD
    MD1 -- Kido/Setiawan vs Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng
    MS2 -- TH vs BCL (best hope for INA to steal point beside 2 MD pairs)
    MD2 -- Candra/Nova vs Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo
    MS3 -- Simon Santoso vs Chen Jin

    hmm...same with my prediction in past posting as below:

    this INA skuad has high probability to steal 3 points agains CHN
    MS: SDK, TH, SS
    MD: MK/HS, NW/CW or Joko/Hendra

    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin Kyoto View Post
    For me...INA Thomas cup team without Luluk/Alvent is solid and strong enough to beat their oppenents :

    1. INA has good a chance to take point from 2 MS and 1 MD if they meet the powerfull countries in QF/SF : Korea, Denmark, Malaysia.

    2. In Final Match, INA will take point from 1 MS (Taufik vs Bao Cunlai) and 2 MD: Word Champion can handle Cai/Fu. Joko/Hendra won in their last meeting against Guo/Xie...and if they are Nova/Candra against the 2nd CHN MD...hhmm...60:40 for INA uncles).

    I am INA supporter very happy with this INA skuad. Beside Luluk/Alvent with their unstable performances, we also need regeneration even though Joko/Hendra has lower ranking than that of their senior. I am sure this INA skuad has high probability for the victory in this Thomas Cup edition.

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    hmm.... TH upsetting BCL is a hard act.... 1 year ago, I would have said absolutely, but now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vching View Post
    hmm.... TH upsetting BCL is a hard act.... 1 year ago, I would have said absolutely, but now...
    TH usually has problem playing Bao. The last 2 matches have been rubber though, with TH winning the 1st and losing the rest. It'll be interesting to see what he can do IF his stamina is improved.

    Besides, there's always the crazy INA fans factor .

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    I guess CHN will field CJ in Ms 2 and CY in MS 3 while facing INA....

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