APACS review

**IBaddersI** · 06-02-2008, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Skanbuzz

Hi,
Anyone know Apacs uk retail shops or which online retails is reliable to buy from & send to uk?

Originally Posted by IBaddersI

Since I live in the UK it wont be so easy for me to purchase apacs rackets so I was wondering what other people in the UK or Europe did. This website apacs-sports claims to be the only dealer in the UK.

Its a bit short notice but this guy on ebay has some APACS rackets, I think its the cheapest for us guys in Europe.

Originally Posted by Skanbuzz

As suggested earlier, I could be looking for VH 1200/1300
I am more of a double player for leisure with a bit of a challege on the men's double.

And hes got a VH 1300 too

The only problem is that the shipping takes like 2 weeks

**Skanbuzz** · 06-03-2008, 07:56 AM

just tried Apacs Edge Saber 10 last night.

4UG2 Bg66 28lbs
I felt it was a quite balance racket.
As it was a 4U racket, it is very easy to manuver, net play was OK.
I was surprise that the power was also there. Drive, Lob was done with ease.
As soon as I changed to AS10, I felt that the power was more on AS10.
I could feel also the super HMG, the AS felt more solid feeling.
The bird also bounce quicker with this AS10 and sharper (I think because of the CS carbon nanotube)
General feeling: it's worth it to buy as the price around $40

When you mention AS10, do you mean Edge saber 10? or you mean yonex Arc saber 10?

If Edgesaber 10, overall how you rate this racket?
Would it be suitable for single or double play?

Thanks

**h4n5ip** · 06-03-2008, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Skanbuzz

just tried Apacs Edge Saber 10 last night.

4UG2 Bg66 28lbs
I felt it was a quite balance racket.
As it was a 4U racket, it is very easy to manuver, net play was OK.
I was surprise that the power was also there. Drive, Lob was done with ease.
As soon as I changed to AS10, I felt that the power was more on AS10.
I could feel also the super HMG, the AS felt more solid feeling.
The bird also bounce quicker with this AS10 and sharper (I think because of the CS carbon nanotube)
General feeling: it's worth it to buy as the price around $40

When you mention AS10, do you mean Edge saber 10? or you mean yonex Arc saber 10?

If Edgesaber 10, overall how you rate this racket?
Would it be suitable for single or double play?

Thanks

Fortunately I have those 2 racket Arch saber 10 (AS10) and Apacs Edge saber 10 (ES10).

I would rate this racket ES10 = 8.5
If you want to be more offensive you can choose 3U.
If you want more to all around, you can choose 4U.
IMO, it will be suitable for both playability (single-double).

**allexking** · 06-04-2008, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by allexking

Is good to hear your good comment on Apacs Edge Saber 10.
In fact I am hunting for Pro Ace Thunder Bolt 3, since my favorite shop do not have stock of TB 3 and I have looked most of racquets in that shop.
Finally the shop owner recommend Edge Saber 10 to me.
Still reluctant at first, and finally decided to buy one.
Now is to wait until next wednesday only can test run my new racquet.

Managed to try my Edge Saber yesterday (Wed).
Overall rating - Very satisfy.
For me this racquet very light.Had a few missed shot as not used to this racquet.By next week my shot timing will be more accurate.
With tension of 27lbs, smashing is very good.
Is a good buy for me on this Edge Saber which cost only 130.00 (with string + grip except bag )

**h4n5ip** · 06-04-2008, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by allexking

Managed to try my Edge Saber yesterday (Wed).
Overall rating - Very satisfy.
For me this racquet very light.Had a few missed shot as not used to this racquet.By next week my shot timing will be more accurate.
With tension of 27lbs, smashing is very good.
Is a good buy for me on this Edge Saber which cost only 130.00 (with string + grip except bag )

Pls quote any information such as U? G? string? tension.
it will be helpful information for others.

**allexking** · 06-04-2008, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by h4n5ip

Pls quote any information such as U? G? string? tension.
it will be helpful information for others.

4U
G4
String 0.66mm (Orange colour)
27 lbs
Grip - Karakal (Black)

**Soony** · 06-06-2008, 09:54 PM

Hmmm , Im getting a muscle pro 95 soon , but seems like rarely got people using this racquet.. everyone would prefer the AVH 1800 , right?? haha..

**HappyTA5** · 06-06-2008, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Soony

Hmmm , Im getting a muscle pro 95 soon , but seems like rarely got people using this racquet.. everyone would prefer the AVH 1800 , right?? haha..

AMP95 is an excellent racket... solid stiff... powerful(ha....that depends how good you are!) .. VH1800 is every different compare with AMP series. It is more powerful than AMP in my hand but a bit trade off on the feel. I will say it is more forgievness.

enjoy

**Soony** · 06-06-2008, 10:17 PM

Haha , what are the possibilities that i must have to utilise the use of muscle pro 95?? Previously was just using charlton speed 90 and i felt that its quite heavy..

Actually i wanted to get the AVH 1800 , but there arent any in stock.. so i went for the AMP series.. haha..

**SilverDJ** · 06-06-2008, 11:10 PM

i just played with a VH 1800 tonight w/ ashaway MPs at 26 lbs. and man is that racket a beast. my drives were very solid, and i could clear with half the effort as usual. however my defence felt a little compensated with this racket. overall though, i'd say this is a great racket for singles or mixed doubles (males)

**lelynx** · 06-06-2008, 11:25 PM

yeah... another satisfied user of VH1800...
i'm one of them as well...

**ph_leung** · 06-08-2008, 04:02 PM

I got my Visible Hollow 1700 a couple of weeks ago.

Claimed Specs
Weight: 3u
Grip:g5
Length: 675mm
Max tension: 30lbs
Flex: Medium
Features: 40T high modulous carbon fibre, reinforced with kevlar, "muscle power" rim on top, aero section head, hollow through handle and shaft.

Mods
I cut the handle down nearly 1cm to bring it to standard length. Electrical tape was layered to bring it to g4. Total weight is now 101g For comparison purposes the actual weights of rackets when modded to my preference are: MP99 106g, Powerblade SL 97g, Powerblade Ti 98g, NXG 101g.

Observations
The weight is 85g with the handle stripped to the wood including MP-XL string. This happens to be the identical weight of the VH1600 4ug5 that I had.

The grip is a good defined shape that even after wrapping with electical tape and 1.85mm Victor ribbed grip to build it up to g4, it was easy to feel the sides. In my experience, this didn't always work well with a Gosen g5 and an MP99 I've had. The cone has a definite flattened side good for when holding the racket short.

With the original length, I felt the racket was a bit slow for fast doubles games. After I cut the handle, it feels perfect. I've done the same with an MP99 with similar results.

The racket came with MP-XL strung at 25 or 26lbs. The feel was ok but a bit mushy for my preference. I strung it with BG66 at 29x32lbs.

The racket is very stiff torsionally even though it is a medium flex shaft.

What does the Hollow effect feel like? It's a bit difficult to describe but is very obvious when you try it. The best way to feel it is to do a clear or a smash. It's has bit of a muffled feel. Power does not seem to be robbed from it. I don't lose accuracy from it either. Does it work? I had the opportunity to do the ultimate test. I slammed the head of a VH1600 onto the edge of a metal dumpster to try to break the racket. It didn't send too much shock to my arm. When I've done this with a ProKennex Keron 1500, MP99, and Powerblade SL, the shock hurts the joints at the elbow and wrist.

The racket is my preferred racket and I am thinking of getting another.

**SilverDJ** · 06-08-2008, 10:38 PM

"visible hollow shaf"

**ph_leung** · 06-09-2008, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by SilverDJ

"visible hollow shaf"

I think I may have gotten a fake APACS!

Forgot to mention that one thing about the endcap is if we "spin rackets for partners" in games, I need to pick up the racket to read the writing.

**Skanbuzz** · 06-09-2008, 01:30 AM

Hi
How did you identify that it is a fake Apacs racket?
I am about to order Apacs from ebay 2Apacs for around USD55
Please let us know or PM me
Thanks

**SilverDJ** · 06-09-2008, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Skanbuzz

Hi
How did you identify that it is a fake Apacs racket?
I am about to order Apacs from ebay 2Apacs for around USD55
Please let us know or PM me
Thanks

is the seller racquet_sports?

i bid on this guy before (but was thankfully outbid later). i was too skeptical myself. just looking at the price, 2 rackets for 50 usd or so is very unlikely to be real, unless you were getting them from the manufacturer directly (on the distributing level).