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    Have you guys seen this one? It's not a deceptive shot, but I think it's a crazy good timing and perfect execution shot.

    It's around 19 or 20 sec.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW029dGIsfk

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    Quote Originally Posted by llpjlau View Post
    have you seen a video of it online?
    Yes, it's on youtube. I've tried to find it, but I couldn't.. I'm still searching for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smash_master View Post
    Here are two videos of trickshots, some are pretty good actually and some are more so just amazing or cool shots the were pulled off more so than tricks. Theres doubles and singles in there as well as a few mixed and you can see how effective some of them can really be.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDwkcurD3o8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMr2V5Ge22Y
    funny this didnt turn up the last time i scoured youtube for badminton vids hehe good stuff! thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_fanatic View Post
    Have you guys seen this one? It's not a deceptive shot, but I think it's a crazy good timing and perfect execution shot.

    It's around 19 or 20 sec.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW029dGIsfk
    That's outrageous . Too bad about the camera angle though

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    Quote Originally Posted by yinsoon View Post
    funny this didnt turn up the last time i scoured youtube for badminton vids hehe good stuff! thanks
    haha no problem, theres always new stuff being added i might have some more stuff just gotta find it first see where it is and if its revelent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waiwai8 View Post
    You can search the video for the first shot as I described. The second shot is not a commonly used therefore I don't know where I can find the clip (if it exists).
    no thanks........

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    no thanks........
    Your loss. Lazy.
    If you can't contribute something constructive then why post?

    May be it's been mentioned but another good shot to try to imitate is Lin Dan's deception when he pretends to hit a long straight from his forehand then last moment hits it hard cross court e.g. from (his view) left to right forcing the opponent to do a quick backhand.

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    I have to wonder....

    Deception is all about creativity, a relaxed wrist, and keeping an eye on your opponent...
    Why try and ask for any standard formula's?

    In the front court alone, there uncountable variations to "flick" your opponent, or fake s straight a net a cross....
    Just experiment yourself

    To try a few (weird but) fun ones:
    on your backhand side, do a netshot like a forehand (looks odd), and soemtimes try and do a crossnetshot (with your forehand on your backhand side)
    The same on your forehand: do a backhand netshot, or do a backhand netshot cross.

    Other than that, keep trying new stuff, but one golden rule is:
    Never fake a shot away form your opponent, and hit it to him. Always fake towards him, and it it away.
    If you do the first, all deception is pretty futile....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    Other than that, keep trying new stuff, but one golden rule is:
    Never fake a shot away form your opponent, and hit it to him. Always fake towards him, and it it away.
    If you do the first, all deception is pretty futile....
    you could try to make him/her rush to the net though. something like that i suppose. then when he/she does, drive it straight at him, catching him/her off guard, hopefully.

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    yeah, from that perspective, smashes to the body, and pushes towards him are exceptions, I guess...
    But for lob, drops and clears, basic set-up shots, it's generally true

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    I have to wonder....

    Deception is all about creativity, a relaxed wrist, and keeping an eye on your opponent...
    Why try and ask for any standard formula's?
    You can get a lot of ideas from other people.

    Deception can be taught. There are technical elements, just like any other shot. But the really tricky part is how to teach the tactical awareness.

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    Yes, it can definatly be taught....

    but to look at 4-5 video's of maybe 6-8 different shots would, in my opinion, limit your strokes.
    I'd recommend general hold&flick, or reverse-slice or subtle wrist/finger-work instruction over 3-4 'standard' shorts (standard is probably an awful word for this...)

    In one sense, I'd say "keep it a bit vague" and teach to think for yourself, and experiment yourself (which would open up your variations a lot).
    on the other hand, seeing shots can be very inspirational...
    Both sides have some valid points

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    I believe this is the Koo Kien Keat video that you guys were looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EszBf...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaSteve View Post
    I believe this is the Koo Kien Keat video that you guys were looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EszBf...eature=related
    Yes, thank you, that's the one I was talking about.
    That's just another hold and flick, but it's so deceiving..

    Most trickshots are done by the net and they usually involve the player 'holding' before striking the shuttle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaSteve View Post
    I believe this is the Koo Kien Keat video that you guys were looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EszBf...eature=related
    Quote Originally Posted by jhirata View Post
    Yes, thank you, that's the one I was talking about.
    That's just another hold and flick, but it's so deceiving..

    Most trickshots are done by the net and they usually involve the player 'holding' before striking the shuttle.
    Ahem, that's quite an old trick

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    my favorite trickshot...
    drop to the front right. You go for the bird, standard netdrop footwork, looks like your going to drop it right back over. when you get there, bring racket around like a crosscout drop, but drop the racket down to your waist instead of hitting it and lift it to the right side.
    done properly, the go to the front left to take your drop, run to their right for a croscourt, then you lift all the way back...great singles trickshot...
    less good in doubles, but its a great positioning shot, as they basically have one player really confused, and they hafta regather themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by skunklover View Post
    my favorite trickshot...
    drop to the front right. You go for the bird, standard netdrop footwork, looks like your going to drop it right back over. when you get there, bring racket around like a crosscout drop, but drop the racket down to your waist instead of hitting it and lift it to the right side.
    done properly, the go to the front left to take your drop, run to their right for a croscourt, then you lift all the way back...great singles trickshot...
    less good in doubles, but its a great positioning shot, as they basically have one player really confused, and they hafta regather themselves
    Isn't that similar to this one ?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EszBf...eature=related

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