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    Default Patella Tendonosis

    Just wondering if anyone out there has any ideas/advice on this condition, other than what I'm told by my physio. Ive already rested for several months with moderate Quad/Calf, strengthening/streching/extensions, etc, but seem not to be benefiting, (still can't walk upstairs without pain, downstairs even worse). Any ideas/help greatly recieved.

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    I'm right there with you on this one, and so is my father.

    Unfortunately, it'll require time. Lots and lots of time. Between strengthening, ice, casual use of anti-inflammatories, and rest... really, that's about all you can do.

    It will recover, sooner or later, providing you don't do intense, aggravating activities.

    I know what you mean, being sick of being in pain, limping around, attempting to do everyday tasks that become virtually impossible without painkillers or adrenaline. Unfortunately... there is no solution, really, other than 'time heals all wounds'. It worked for my dad, although I admit at this point it looks pretty bleak for myself...

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    sad to say we must be a family... mines isnt too agrabated yet, i also have osgood schatattler sigh.. jumpers knee sucks lol


    i am trying to improve in badminton really fast, so i cant realll afford to quit for a few months, i ve been making good progress and i just dont want to stop haha


    but ya what do u guys do to reduce the pain

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    Roll on a styrofoam cylinder. I've had a couple knee problems throughout my life and rolling the outside of my leg on a styrofoam cylinder, or rolling pin works. It hurts like hell until you get used to it, but almost 100% it will help if not fix the problem.

    Give it 20x twice a day 6 days a week for two weeks. I would be hugely surprised if it doesn't help at all.

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    intersting idea.... when i was swimming competitvly we used these cylinders..



    (( though i never did) (thought i did have major cramps) ( if u swim competitvly and u are training u can drown with a cramop and no lifeguard would care ahha truth*))



    but we only used these cylinders for cramps... how is it applied to normal knee inuries?

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    get a knee support (or two) help relieve the pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXHilikusXx
    sad to say we must be a family... mines isnt too agrabated yet, i also have osgood schatattler sigh.. jumpers knee sucks lol


    i am trying to improve in badminton really fast, so i cant realll afford to quit for a few months, i ve been making good progress and i just dont want to stop haha


    but ya what do u guys do to reduce the pain
    I have osgood schlatter's too... get those Cho-Pat knee straps, I can't run without them. THey won't make it better, but they'll really help.

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    personally used knee strap whenever i do any sport for the past 4 months
    and the jummper's knee symptom slowly goes away..
    how much it have helped i'm not exactly sure, but it did help
    reduce the click i get when i bend my knee with the strap on.
    i still get the clilck here and there after 4 months but it went from sharp pain to just another click when u crack yr knuckle

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    Default Hmm, it's a common condition..

    Quote Originally Posted by pixie
    Just wondering if anyone out there has any ideas/advice on this condition, other than what I'm told by my physio. Ive already rested for several months with moderate Quad/Calf, strengthening/streching/extensions, etc, but seem not to be benefiting, (still can't walk upstairs without pain, downstairs even worse). Any ideas/help greatly recieved.

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    ..personally, i'm no doctor nor physician nor i've had this condition so i can't really help much. But from what i know, this is a degenerative condition and it's very common in any jumping sport, esp. badminton. And like others, above, have suggested, i too would recommend something similar to a knee strap, similar to the pic below. I've seen many pro players wear this type of knee support/strap:
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    are u all refering to the picture of the knee strap above this post? is it tied to your lump of the osgood schattlers or just above it on the pattella? cause i ve seen like bands that have a special cup for the lump of the osgood schattler and i heard it just applies little pressure for some pain relief.

    I am just wandering if its just as good

    and if the band shown above can be used for oscgood and jumpers knee

    all in all ive had osgood schattlers for like 5 years now, i feel the pain, but its no longer as much as a disturbance as the jumpers knee which is a new kind of pain altogether because its agrravated even if u dont purposfull touch it
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    are u all refering to the picture of the knee strap above this post? the patella band one? i heard it relieves osgood schattlers, but i am intersted about the one about jumpers knee are u talking about the same kind of strap?

    all in all ive had osgood schattlers for like 5 years now, i feel the pain, but its no longer as much as a disturbance as the jumpers knee which is a new kind of pain altogether because its agrravated even if u dont purposfull touch it

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    i rested for 3 months with only low level exercises, and now it is pretty much completely cured. it was terrible when walking stairs and kneeling down caused much pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXHilikusXx
    intersting idea.... when i was swimming competitvly we used these cylinders..



    (( though i never did) (thought i did have major cramps) ( if u swim competitvly and u are training u can drown with a cramop and no lifeguard would care ahha truth*))



    but we only used these cylinders for cramps... how is it applied to normal knee inuries?
    Its used for stretching tense muslces. The IT band if you dont stretch it can get really tight and cause your knee cap not to glide properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixie
    Just wondering if anyone out there has any ideas/advice on this condition, other than what I'm told by my physio. Ive already rested for several months with moderate Quad/Calf, strengthening/streching/extensions, etc, but seem not to be benefiting, (still can't walk upstairs without pain, downstairs even worse). Any ideas/help greatly recieved.

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    PIX
    how many months have you rested and how many months have u been in therapy? generally patellar tendinosis reponds to conservative treatment, but if these conservative measures doesnt seem yto help, there is an option of surgery, it is a relatively simple procedure wherin we remove or excise the dead or damaged tendon. I recommend for you to see your orthopedic surgeon and make sure that the cause of your knee pain is comming from the patellar tendon, if hes sure its coming from there, discuss your options.

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    Thumbs up ^^Good suggestions..^^

    Quote Originally Posted by henmd111
    how many months have you rested and how many months have u been in therapy? generally patellar tendinosis reponds to conservative treatment, but if these conservative measures doesnt seem yto help, there is an option of surgery, it is a relatively simple procedure wherin we remove or excise the dead or damaged tendon. I recommend for you to see your orthopedic surgeon and make sure that the cause of your knee pain is comming from the patellar tendon, if hes sure its coming from there, discuss your options.
    ...concur with henmd111(esp. with the surgery option plus he's a physician & specialist himself)...
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    I had this condition for 2 years or so, and even now I have to manage my training and the amount I play.

    I can recommend:

    Get a neoprene strap with the tubing on the underside of it. This enabled me to play without pain. The one I had was a little more substantial than the one pictured in the thread above.

    Do the exercises that your physio gives you.

    Try not to play on hard court surfaces! Sprung wood is the best!

    Ice and anti inflammatories did nothing for me, as I believe the swelling is not the main cause of the injury, but its a breakdown in the structure of the tendon. Think of a worn out elastic band and you get the idea.

    I think the key for me was to stimulate the recovery through exercising and playing, but not enough to further damage the tendon. I stopped jumping quite so much, and I also stopped training on the ultra hard floor that I think caused it. I'm not sure that total rest is the answer, but like weight lifting you need to exercise it, and then give it time to heal before you do it again. But I would check all of this with a physio as I am no expert, it just seemed to work for me.

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    hey guys i went to a chirocpractor, i found out some amazing things such as my left leg was like half a inch shorter then my right one, i cant really explain what he told me , mainly because ive forgetten it, but he basically said my knee pains were due to extentive pressure because of my flatfoot and shorter leg, check out a chircopractor, i have been feeling better after he fixed me up , ( bw i do have orthos)

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