Could someone please clarify the ruling in the following instance. During play my opponent strikes the shuttle cock towards the net, but the shuttle hits the net on my opponents side and fails to travel over the net. Literally a second after the shuttle has struck the net, my racket strikes the net on my side antcipating that the shuttle was going to cross over the net (although the shuttle has already failed to cross the net). Who wins the point? My opponent or me, as my racket has struck the net, althougth the shuttle became 'not in play' milliseconds before my racket touched the net. Please help Thanks Andy
Unfortunately you lose the point, as your racquet has touched the net before the shuttlecock has touched the ground. Avoid touching the net with your racquet by brushing when shuttle is very close to the net so that you do not touch the net with your racquet. The shuttlecock is only not in play when it touches the ground.
isn't the shuttle only out of play after it has touched the ground? going by the same argument, if your opponent hit the shuttle wide, say 10m wide so that nobody can claim they don't know it's going wide, but you touch the net before the shuttle lands on the ground, is that a fault on your part? i would say it is, as the shuttle is still in play. i think the same concept should apply.
Rules According to the rules of play that I have looked up there are three occassions when the shuttle is described as not in play 15. Shuttle not in Play A shuttle is not in play when: 15.1 it strikes the net or post and starts to fall towards the surface of the court on the striker’s side of the net; 15.2 it hits the surface of the court; or 15.3 a 'fault' or a 'let' has occurredThus as 15.1 states the shuttle is not in play once it starts to fall towards the court on the strikers side. Is does not state that it has to be grounded. Thus my original question remains. (Can you tell I am desperate to prove my opponent wrong)
You are correct; your opponent is wrong. Once the shuttle has ceased to be in play, all subsequent "faults" are void. As soon as the shuttle starts falling towards the striker's side of the court, the point is over (he lost it). Your hitting the net afterwards is irrelevant.
hmmm, well, guess we were wrong then. at our club, we always judge a shuttle out of play only after it has touched the ground. though to be fair, these disputes are rare.
Totally agree. However does this mean that once the shuttle hits the net, the point is pretty much lost as it will be falling down even if you get to it?
Why thank you, kind sir. But all it takes is reading the rules... Pretty much. But you have to be sure it wasn't going to cross the net. In cases where it's too close to call, you should play a let.
Assuming you are the striker: Once the shuttle hits the net and begins to fall down on your side, there's no use getting to it A second contact is, of course, a fault.
how do you prove you hit the net before or after the shuttle hits the net, if it's not clear cut? just play a let then?
A combination of bushy eyebrows, a clenched fist, a thrust-out chin and a very powerful voice generally helps win any argument that might arise Pounding the floor, especially if wooden, also helps.
This is a very good point. During competitive play, things happen so fast, and it's hard to prove (or the opponents don't want to admit) that the racket hit the net AFTER the shuttle was falling on the opponent's side. Therefore, avoid such contact at all cost. Otherwise, good luck.
The shuttle is out of play as soon as it has started to fall down towards the ground and is therefore out of play long before it actually lands on the floor. Consequently touching the net as Andymoore describes is not a fault. To answer Dreamzz' question, for the umpire or anyone upiring that game, this is a judgement call without appeal. When players score the game among themselves, it is a matter of agreeing which of the two came first. When no agreement can be reached, a let is the only option. When there is no agreement on the reading of the Law, things are slightly more complicated. Yet in the end a let is indeed the only option if the matter can not be resolved by e.g. the "verdict" on the reading of the Law by a conculted third party whose expertise is accepted bij both sides. Dreamzz' point on the shuttle going wide is not valid. The essential difference between Andymoore and Dreamzz situation is that it is a judgement call whether a shuttle goes wide or not. With a shuttle is falling down after it has touched the net, there is no judgement involved. Therefore in Andymore's situationt he shuttle is out of play and in Dreamzz' situation the shuttle can never be out of play.
Thanks you everybody. I'm printing this thread and educate my friends (& ....me) Thanks especially to thread starter andymoore. In one of the friendly match I played recently, the opponent hit the shuttle at the net and brushing the tape, assuming that the shuttle was crossing over to my side (because of my poor eyesight), in fact the shuttle did not cross over to my side which I found out later after the match. I hit the shuttle vertical up below the net but I did not touch the net. The shuttle not able to cross over the net. The umpire awarded the point to my opponent. After the match, I was told that the shuttle did not cross over and still in the striker's side. My friends said it was a fault because I hit the shuttle before touching the ground. My friends were sitting near the service line which they can see clearly that the shuttle did not cross the net.