08-26-2008, 12:10 PM #103
08-26-2008, 03:44 PM #104
No wonder, flash photography is banned in most badminton tournaments.
I'm with this whole 'mind set' concenpt, I've experienced the above example quite a few times and I'm sure that others have as well. When I don't think of anything (technique, atmosphere, people, tactics), I play at my best ( from my experience).
This would relate to this thread, but I find it very hard not to 'think' or to be 'put off'. Perhaps, Gollum's advice can help us in this case, not to be manipulated by the opponent.
08-26-2008, 05:37 PM #105
One good/bad thing on Internet is that we don't see each other and can't see how we play. I played badminton for over 30 years and trust me, when I go into a court today the last thing in my mind is to win the game. Today I play badminton just for my enjoyment only.
A question I have on this is, if we do not think about winning in badminton, then why do we need to practice and improve our skills? Do we practice to participate in tournaments only, and results do not count?
'Easy' play is very subjective. What 'easy' means to you may not necessarily have the same meaning to me. Getting the shuttle over the net is also easy to say but not that easy to do/accomplish, but not sure if you agree.
My apologies to your explanation about Tai Chi - I still don't get it. What is the meaning of "don use hard to defeat hard, utilize the hard to defeat hard" and how can you achieve it?
And when you mention foundations in badminton, can you please put a few more details regarding foundations. I am afraid when we speak foundations here, there is different understanding about foundations. What you consider as foundations, how your Tai Chi differs from the normal foundations of the current badminton skills.
Still not clear what you mean by Tai Chi 'floating' and 'stick to the ground' footwork.
Last edited by viver; 08-26-2008 at 05:44 PM.
08-26-2008, 11:37 PM #106
08-27-2008, 05:11 AM #107
Bao is trying to get hold of the initiative, getting to shuttles early and making pace.
Taufik is a lot more relaxed and a bit defensive.
But when you go to 1:45min, you see Taufik grabbing initiative, and suddenly starts jumping and starting (floating, if you wil)
So, in short. I think you are correct in your observation, the two 'styles' of footwork.
But if you ask me, we all use both, depending on whether or not you have the initiative.
08-27-2008, 06:19 AM #108
obviously, your surroundings and your mindset will help you play better.
there is anger for instance. if your are angry with your play than it will get even worse but if you r angry at anything other than than badding than u can channel the emotions into ur play. although it can have adverse effects
crowds affect my game very much. if someone is booing me, i will start playing worse but if someone is applauding i will play better. my opponent's response will also matter.
there is something called a "spring in one's step". it comes someda into ur body and u reach everything and frustrate ur opponent.
any emotion if channeled effectively will create results
11-17-2008, 03:53 AM #109
i think one guy often creats a no-flow is this indonesian mixed player (older guy) -- the second most successful pair in mixed from indonesia at the moment.
01-01-2009, 06:55 AM #110
sorry for off topic...for those duno tai chi...tai chi is not a slow moving martial art...if u really face a tai chi master...or someone know tai chi...u will ko in no time...seriously......if u really think tai chi is a slow one......when they perform tai chi...in slow form...is because for performing...in real combat/fight...haha...u will know if u try to challenge one...
01-01-2009, 02:29 PM #111
Off-topic: Tai chi seems cool.. there's a sword involved right? xD
On Topic: This dosen't really seem new. I THINK I understand what you're getting at.. but isn't this just the difference of a relaxed defensive compared to a very stiff offensive player? It also sounds just like deception.. I think almost everyone would use deception when they do a drop shot from the back. Maybe you should make or link everyone to a video so they can better understand you if this isn't where you're getting at.
Off-topic: In that video Taufik looks like he dosen't try that hard until he loses 2 points in the game o.o He was mainly defensive and looked sort of relaxed too.
01-01-2009, 05:32 PM #112
I am not an expert on martial arts, but I think Tai Chi is considered as one of the biggest schools of Chinese Martial Arts. The emphasis is on breathing and using circular movements that neutralizes the opponent strikes. The saying applied to Tai Chi is, well literally - using 3 'liang' to push away 1,000 'jin'. The question is as one of the masters put it 'Do you know if you have this 3 'liang' of strength?' (laing and jin are weight measurements in China, may be replaced with 'grams' and 'kilos' as example).
This question of '3 liang of strength' I think, can be applied to any kind of martial arts and maybe sports, badminton included. Is not the just saying is slow moving or fast moving style. Is about anticipation, skills technique, strength, timing, speed, accuracy of the response - wheter of a punch/kick strike or reply to a smash in badminton.
So far, if you have read through out the thread, the question was mainly on the new theories in Tai Chi badminton. I have not found any and what was said here, I have learned 30 years ago when under a professional coach.
PS: Have you heard, back in the 70's, a group of Chinese Martial arts practitioners challenging Muay Thai boxers? I think 1 lasted about a minute in the ring and all others went down between 10 to 30 seconds.
01-03-2009, 08:56 PM #113
01-04-2009, 12:19 AM #114
p/s...chinese martial art not equal to tai chi......there are hundred kind of kung fu in china...thats from my knowledges...it might exceed thousand....cz i just a small kids...dunno more abt tat......sorry for of topic..
well...on topic...i will try this next time on court...
01-05-2009, 02:37 AM #115
My point about the people challenging the Muay Thai fighters is mainly about the training. The Muay Thai fighters were physically much fitter and faster. Technique alone is not enough.
The same principle applies to badminton. Many players have very good skills, the best players are not only good in skills but also excellent in physical fitness.
Last edited by viver; 01-05-2009 at 02:39 AM.
01-05-2009, 02:49 AM #116
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01-06-2009, 03:35 AM #118
01-07-2009, 01:29 AM #119
If you use 2.5 'liang' , I would think your return could go either to the net or could go over the net high, for an easy kill - pray for a miracle and hope the other guy hit the net.
If LCW uses 3.2 'liang' for his return, hmm, provided the timing is good he should return the smash with ease. The extra 0.2 'liang' will allow LCW to place the shuttle in a way that will create a strong challenge for LD to return.
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