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    Hi,
    In Ho Chi Minh City, we use Hai Yen shuttlecocks: Green/red and Yellow/red brand. Very cheap about $50,ooo/- Dong and $45,ooo/- Dong respectively. Both are not durable. Just can last the most a game.(USD$1/- equals to $15,900/-Dong.).
    Lee

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    Default mmoa shuttlecocks for sale

    keep the price as 2005
    mmoa ms-999(international competition) speed 3(only) au$21.0
    mmoa ms-950(international competition) speed 3, speed 4 au$20.0
    mmoa ms-850(state competion) speed 3, speed 4, speed 5 au$16.0
    mmoa ms-750(club player) speed 4 au$14.0

    speed 3(temp 22-28 degree), speed4(temp 17-23 degree), speed 5(temp12-18 degree)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayl
    G'day,

    We are short of options here in Australia so all we get is Epsilon Green, Orange, Yellow, Red and Purple lable. Boo hoo.

    Occassionally we get to use RSL silver. Yonex shuttles? Can't get them here!


    Haha Same hear 'Epsilon 808(yellow)' sometimes green606 but they fluff up quikly and slow down......not as durable as the yellow 808s


    mmmm......Maybe we should start a buisness importing shuttles to Aus?

    Epsilons are ok but not the best for price and durabilitie and flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jump_smash
    Ayl,

    Who is your supplier? The shuttle market is diverse, whith many small players,
    Snowpeak, RSL and Aeroplane (and to some extent Carlton?) are a few going round Melbourne.

    The history with Epsilon goes back to days suppling shuttles, tracksuits to Badminton Australia as part of Sponsorship. Former Australian No 1 Singles player,
    Murray Hocking was contracted to Epsilon as a player, and now works for them.

    Former Australian No 1 Ladies Doubles player Rhonda Cator was a Carton agent, don't know if she still is.

    As far as I know:

    For RSL and Aeroplane try
    Ko Beng

    In Sydney they have Josan Arrow 300, Aeroplane and swallow.
    You can tryAndrew

    In Brisbane they have Yang Yang and Yonex
    You can trySunrise Sports

    Regards
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    Yep epsilon and Murray Hocking.
    I play at Altona Badminton Stadium......pro shop there only sells : epsilon , fleet, Used epsilon rackets for many years until recent, nice rackets.


    yes Rhonda Cator is still dealing Carlton here in 'Pascoe Vale'


    its on the web 'Casonsports' basic website but if you email they can send out cataloges.
    Last edited by LongReach; 02-25-2006 at 08:28 PM.

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    I used to use: Victor Blue.
    Now i use: Sea Lion C1101 (black label) and Aeroplane SG1130

    Some of our club members are now using RSL Tourney no.1 for $18.50/tube.

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    used to use: Victor Blue.
    Now i use: Sea Lion C1101 (black label)
    I use those too. but in reversed order. I used to use c1101 and now I use victor blue. where do u buy your shuttle supply? rsl is cheaper than victor blue. is it the same quality?

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    For the past 2 weeks, I have been using the following:

    Aeroplane Red (speed 78)
    RSL # 1 (78)
    RSL # 1 (77)
    Victor Blue (78)

    I can say that RSL # 1ís quality has improved while Victor Blue has gone down.
    RSL # 1 (77) was too slow for our gym.

    We are switching over to RSL # 1 (78) for sure. Also, the price was lowest for RSL.

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    Double_Player:

    My opinions of the RSL #1 agree with those of roby2003. The quality of the RSL Tourney #1 are very consistent and are better then those of the Victor Blue (which i find have gone down and are a little inconsistent in quality).

    A club member bulk ordered the Sea Lion Blacks from Yo's (we ordered 100 tubes i think). Yo's even made a personal delivery to our club. It was rather nice of him.

    The speed of the birds we use are 77. At the moment, i find the Aeroplane SG1130 a tad bit better then the Sea Lion Black and are a bit cheaper then the RSL birds. I love the RSL birds..but the problem is that they are based in montreal (have to take shipping to account). But fortunately our club organizer has good relations with them.

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    thanks darthhowie. the problem with out if town stores are u prettty much have to buy bulk to get it mailed, the same if order-in to your local store.


    well, this is where traveling friends come in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Player
    thanks darthhowie. the problem with out if town stores are u prettty much have to buy bulk to get it mailed, the same if order-in to your local store.


    well, this is where traveling friends come in...
    I don't own a car (live and work downtown). When i got my 50 tubes of Aeroplane birds (bulk order for me and 3 others) i had to go pick it up (uptown at fairview mall - don mills ttc station). carrying a large box on the subway and streetcar was a bit of a hassle.. but the Aeroplane Rep was very accomodating and i think it was worth it. I would definately do business with him again.

    based on my own preference of the birds i tried:

    RSL Tourney #1 > Aeroplane SG1130 > Sea Lion C1101 > Victor Blue

    I tried Sosan birds briefly when i was in vancouver (thanks PeteLSD). They are somewhere between aeroplane and sg1130 and above victor blue.

    However for the price:durability ratio...it's RIGHT UP there!! I think the sosan rep is in Kingston. You may want to contact them.

    ok i'm wrong..just checked...but here's the site:
    http://torch.cs.dal.ca/~xji/shuttlecock.htm

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    thanks anyway. I still have 2 tubes of victor blue before I have to buy some more. sea lion C1101 does last a long time. when I'm playing at the club, we ussually only use 1 birds per game (with the ussual steaming before the game). we're not too picky, playing with feather is a treat, so a little wobble sometime is being ignored (as long as the feathers are intact). last night I got 2 games out of one bird ...a lot less smashing more drops and net play.

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    I play with either Sosan greens (the club grade) or Level Skyline white.
    That's what I play with, but what I prefer? Yonex AS-50

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    Nice to see you like RSL shuttles, do you know you can buy RSL shuttles in some of the clubs in Toronto?

    I find almost all the shuttles' quality are going down. Victor Champion is not as good as before, same is the Yonex AS-20. RSL shuttles went down not as much as them. Sealion, I am not sure recently, need to check out next time I go to Toronto.



    Quote Originally Posted by DarthHowie
    I don't own a car (live and work downtown). When i got my 50 tubes of Aeroplane birds (bulk order for me and 3 others) i had to go pick it up (uptown at fairview mall - don mills ttc station). carrying a large box on the subway and streetcar was a bit of a hassle.. but the Aeroplane Rep was very accomodating and i think it was worth it. I would definately do business with him again.

    based on my own preference of the birds i tried:

    RSL Tourney #1 > Aeroplane SG1130 > Sea Lion C1101 > Victor Blue

    I tried Sosan birds briefly when i was in vancouver (thanks PeteLSD). They are somewhere between aeroplane and sg1130 and above victor blue.

    However for the price:durability ratio...it's RIGHT UP there!! I think the sosan rep is in Kingston. You may want to contact them.

    ok i'm wrong..just checked...but here's the site:
    http://torch.cs.dal.ca/~xji/shuttlecock.htm

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    OK, I have some stuffs to complain about to victor reps/dealer in this forum. I have a brand new victor tourney (blue, not no. 1) speed 78, which intended for 18-23 C. I've steamed them. the 1st one is OK, but still too fast (speed 77 don't really shows any different, and it's quiet rare to get speed 76 or 75 in canada). the 2nd and third one out of the tube was horrible . It's like a little torpedo (flies like speedminton shuttle), too fast; way too fast (my double partner hit a clear and end up about 3/4 way on the other court ). I play in a local club which uses a highschool gym (6 court, decent but not superb). we gotta tipped it out to reduce the speed.

    Any possibility that the wrong steaming method could cause this? or just plain wrong speed for the wrong temp. that crazy speed happen to my speed 77 sea lion C1101...

    It just something I want to rant about...since it cost me $22 a tube...

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    Victor Blue 78 sold in Canada are generally one speed faster - 79. The bird is fine in unheated gym at an ambient temperature of 13 C.

    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Player
    OK, I have some stuffs to complain about to victor reps/dealer in this forum. I have a brand new victor tourney (blue, not no. 1) speed 78, which intended for 18-23 C. I've steamed them. the 1st one is OK, but still too fast (speed 77 don't really shows any different, and it's quiet rare to get speed 76 or 75 in canada). the 2nd and third one out of the tube was horrible . It's like a little torpedo (flies like speedminton shuttle), too fast; way too fast (my double partner hit a clear and end up about 3/4 way on the other court ). I play in a local club which uses a highschool gym (6 court, decent but not superb). we gotta tipped it out to reduce the speed.

    Any possibility that the wrong steaming method could cause this? or just plain wrong speed for the wrong temp. that crazy speed happen to my speed 77 sea lion C1101...

    It just something I want to rant about...since it cost me $22 a tube...

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    whoa...if that's true then I have a buch of overspeed birds ...ambiance temprature in the gym I'd say around 21-23 C top...since It's an older building build in the 50s. and i'ts too expensive to heat it more than that...

    btw, what's the point of branding shuttles at 78 when the actual speed is 79? don't make any sense at all. pointless, utterly useless and crap.

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    COST of feather and cork material ! Sosan Black 78 is another example of super pumped speed rating. It's actually more like speed 80 at sea level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Player
    whoa...if that's true then I have a buch of overspeed birds ...ambiance temprature in the gym I'd say around 21-23 C top...since It's an older building build in the 50s. and i'ts too expensive to heat it more than that...

    btw, what's the point of branding shuttles at 78 when the actual speed is 79? don't make any sense at all. pointless, utterly useless and crap.

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