ArcSaber 7/10 vs NanoSpeed 9000X

Discussion in 'Racket Recommendation / Comparison' started by kwsusanto, Aug 15, 2008.

  1. kwsusanto

    kwsusanto Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    education
    Location:
    glasgow
    I am using NS9000X.
    Moving from my old Carbonex21SP,
    I feel that I lost my power in smash using NS9000X.
    I am looking for a new one.
    I wonder how ArcSaber 7 or 10 compared to NS9000X.
    I have tried AT900P, and I didn't like it.
    It feel very heavy.
    Can anybody gives some suggestions?
    Thanks.
     
  2. phandrew

    phandrew Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    2,131
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Racquet breaker
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    The NS9000X may be too stiff for you or the string tension could be too high for you.
     
  3. kwsusanto

    kwsusanto Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    education
    Location:
    glasgow
    The tension only 22. Is it too strong?
     
  4. phandrew

    phandrew Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    2,131
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Racquet breaker
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    It's most likely the racket is too stiff for you.
     
  5. mikeyapkf

    mikeyapkf Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2008
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Information Specialist
    Location:
    Seri Kembangan
    Nanospeed 9000X racket is good for control. I can also generate powerful smash with it. I am not sure why you cannot. Maybe due to string tension or racket stiffness.
     
  6. Mark A

    Mark A Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2005
    Messages:
    7,170
    Likes Received:
    695
    Location:
    St Helens, UK
    The 9X is by far the least forgiving racket I've ever tried - anything short of a 98% perfect swing will be punished, so your loss of power is very common.

    I would suggest a Nano 9000S or 8000, or an Arc 7 as a replacement; each is more forgiving than the 9X but still keeps almost all the power.
     
  7. south_fan

    south_fan Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2007
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Well you need good strong wrist to get the full benefit from 9000X and also timing of the smash. When i started i was hitting the frame but now i get timing rite. 2U is very demanding though.
     
  8. kwsusanto

    kwsusanto Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    education
    Location:
    glasgow
    I don't think I have a strong wrist, but I think I have a strong swing.
    I change my sport from tennis to badminton. Maybe this is the reason.
    (I already snapped one NS9X when I hit the shuttle on the frame.)
    Using NS9000X, I did find my control improved alot, but losing on the smash.
    Thanks for the suggestion, I will try to get ArcSaber for a trial.
     
  9. jhirata

    jhirata Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    2,431
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Wellington, New Zealand, New Z
    A 'fast swing' is different to a 'strong swing' ;).

    Wristy players generally have a 'fast swing' and arm-players have a 'strong swing'. Maybe you should try the AT900P or AT700 even though you didn't feel comfortable playing with it because of its head-heaviness. It's all about getting used to.
     
    #9 jhirata, Aug 16, 2008
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2008
  10. kwsusanto

    kwsusanto Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    education
    Location:
    glasgow
    I tried AT900P, and I have to avoid it.
    The racket put too much pressure on my elbow (ako tennis elbow).
    It seems myy arm tends to lock (cause of tennis?) during the quick swing.
    I have tried the racket, and only in 10 minutes, my arm got fatique
    (mostly trying to do smash). The next morning, my elbow is painful.
    My immediate conclusion, AT or probably MP are not an option.
    I am trying to find a compromise, and experimenting which one is better.
    Or is there any other racket than Yonex worth to try?
    Thanks for all inputs. Really appreciate it.
     
  11. phandrew

    phandrew Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    2,131
    Likes Received:
    3
    Occupation:
    Racquet breaker
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    You can try wearing a tennis elbow compression band to ease the pain. If yonex isn't the brand for you then you should consider other brands.
     
  12. Dunk1970

    Dunk1970 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2008
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    UK
    A colleague of mine couldn't get as much power out of the same NS9000X that I was testing in a shop, while he get improved power with the more flexible NS4500 and Arc7.

    What string type are you using? I didn't want to lose the nice power I had with my old racquet, so went with BG80 at 22lbs.
     
  13. kwsusanto

    kwsusanto Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    education
    Location:
    glasgow
    I tried arc10, the first feel is the head is slightly heavier than NS9000X. I think it will improve the power, but can't judge it properly as the string tension is loose. I need to borrow another one with proper string.
    I am using BG65 with 22-23. I will try BG80 and see what the impact, and try to find NS4500. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
  14. 77suns

    77suns Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    -
    Location:
    singapore
    kwsusanto- if you are using 22-23lbs use bg85 instead cos it will give more power. BTW Arc saber are faster due to slim frame and more flexible shaft, and not heavy head as AT.
     
  15. 77suns

    77suns Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    -
    Location:
    singapore
    kwsusanto- if you are using 22-23lbs use bg85 instead cos it will give more power. BTW Arc saber are faster due to slim frame. It has more flexible shaft, and not heavy head as AT.[/quote]
     
  16. SpinAxel

    SpinAxel Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Philippines
    I used to have a NS9000 X. It's a headlight racket with a very stiff shaft. It took me a while to get use to it but once you did,it's a very powerful one. Control is excellent with good defense to boot. I used to string it at 30x28lbs with BG-85 or if available NBG-98
    I also own a ArcSaber-10 also strung with 30x28lbs with NBG-98. It is more head heavy and much more forgiving but the offensive punch is not the same as that of the NS9KX,maybe it just me. But I think the reason is the difference in the stiffness of the shafts. While playing with the Arc-Saber,I had tennis elbow(I am right-handed).
    My main racket for the moment is a Karakal M-tec 70 strung with my usual string and tension.
     
  17. Dunk1970

    Dunk1970 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2008
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    UK
    My experience while trying the Arc10 and NS9000X prior to eventually buying the NS9000X was the same as you found. Liked the feel of both, but got more power from the NS9000X. I've only had my NS9000X for a few sessions now and each time I start the warm-up at the beginning of the evening, I can feel feedback of the off-centre shots and quickly zone in on hitting with the sweetspot. One correction though, the NS9000X is not a headlight racquet. It might say it is on the shaft, but I'm guessing it says that on all the Nanospeeds. If you find the relevant Yonex chart, you'll see the NS9000X actually sat on the head heavy side, but only by a fraction, with the other Nanospeeds having a spread of lighter heads.
     
  18. CarbonexFan

    CarbonexFan Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2005
    Messages:
    395
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Netherlands
    The cab21 is a great racket, but too heavy for today's standard. heavy rackets tent to have more power for those who can manage. The racket in my collection which match the cab21 most is the Arcsaber 7 in 2U-G4. It feels stiffer, but that's how new rackets are built. Nanospeeds are head light, normally resulting in less power with the same 'swing'. Amortec's can also be a good choice, but cannot emulate the slim shaft the cab21 has...
     
  19. Dunk1970

    Dunk1970 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2008
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    UK
    Here's a link to a Yonex Chart. This may help when deciding between different Yonex racquets. Ironically, the Cab21 seems to have the same balance point as the NS9000X. Heh, I repeat, not all Nanospeeds are head light. Except of course if you are only comparing them relative to Armortecs. Personally, I only use balanced racquets, so the Armortecs feel horrible as far as I'm concerned :-

    http://www.yonexusa.com/images/badminton/badminton2_specs.pdf
     
  20. CarbonexFan

    CarbonexFan Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2005
    Messages:
    395
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Although I agree the Nano9000 has some decent power, it's still not the same. The starter of the topic is moving from a Cab21 (mostly 2U) to a new one, asking for a recommendation. I bought a 2U version of the ARC7 to retain the power the Cab21 has, and it works for me.

    Balance point is a relative measurement. Another grip, overwrap or even different string can alter this (lead tape!). It's the feeling that matters. A NS9000 still feels head light compared to the cab21.

    And please don't get me wrong. Each type of racket has strengths and weaknesses and we can adapt to it. I'm just saying that if you're used to a Cab21, the ARC7 in 2U will have almost the same feeling (slim design/Slim shaft/Even balanced). The NS9000 is a complete different feel, no matter if it is a S or a X type.

     

Share This Page