playing against a deceptive player

i can think of 3 things you can do

first would be, before he can do any deception, put enough pressure on him so he won't be able to

second would be to wait and then go, don't move until you know for sure where the shuttle's going, iow keep your eye on the shuttle...

third is to do a feint whenever he's about to do a shot. if you want to take the bird at the net, feint backwards ~ your opponent should see you jerk back and then do a net shot

 

train your reflexes, train your footwork, train your counters, and when you get the chance, pull the same thing on them

 

I have been playing with a deceptive player and each time he managed to control me because his shot was very accurate. His angle is good and it is very difficult to counter his shot as he varies his shot...you'll never know where is his next shot. He tends to slow the shuttle and then push it fast later...he tends to drop and then later push you to the baseline and then fake a drop but when you run to the net to receive the shot, he push it back again to the baseline. All this is possible because he controls using his wrist and finger...not his forearm or shoulder. My reflex is good but still it is not good enough against a highly deceptive player. You can just see how Lin Dan do it. This takes years of practice. It is just like a juggler. He can move the ball easily and control each movement. When you move forward he push to the back...when you move back, he drops..when you stay in the middle, he sends a fast shot past you right up to your back hand. If you back hand is weak...you are in trouble. To play against such player, you must attack from the start and try to dictate pace. You have to be really fit because when you attack you use a lot of energy. But if you are fit, you can normally overcome him. Do not give the shuttle within his reach. Try to make him run. The deceptive player normally cannot execute his shot if he is running or moving too much. He can only execute his shot well if the shuttle is sent within the reach of his racket and he can easily control the shuttle angle via the wrist work.

 

I too got faked a lot by a very good deceptive player because I anticipate too much what the other player would normally do. When I show signs of moving, he then do all his tricks. I was also told not to move and wait for the shuttle for me not to be caught by his deceptive shot. The other one is to attack the player so that he cant execute his trick shots.

 

Speed up the tempo in your game

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Hi esim619,

Your question: What is the most effective strategy to adopt in order to play against a deceptive player?

Deceptive players play their best when they are given more time to play their next shots.

Answer: When you are playing a deceptive player, give him/her less time to play his/her next shot. Therefore, speed up the tempo in your game.


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just to add on, i think you may also be easily read on shots. try to work on your deceptive strokes and he won't know what shot you'll play next, therefore less time, ergo less deceptive shots. vary your shots are good, but if he puts you in a tough spot where only 1 or 2 shots are possible (i.e. drive or clear) then you have to work on your deceptive strokes.

 

Agree. If you can't out perform him in his pace, try to switch to your own pace. If he's very effective at the net, try to push him to his baseline, and change a control type game into a run and bang-bang type.

 

Well, I think you have to find the shot's weakness. For example, he may only use deceptive shots against your drops or something, if so, force him to the baseline using clears, just try to find a way to force him not have enough time to make the deceptive shot. Like the others said, keep it at your tempo, make him move where he can't use deceptive shots and keep adding pressure on him.

 

Deceptive players are more control players. They use lots of held shots and almost all their strokes are angled shots which are real hell to handle. But be careful, there are deceptive control players who mix this up with aggressive and power play, i.e. Zhao Jianhua. Such all round players may not show their speed and power side of their game because there is no need to.

 

the most devastating of them all

 

The best example you can have is today's match...Lee Chong Wei vs Joachim Persson of Denmark at the Japan 2008 semifinals. You can see that Lee Chong Wei is controlling Persson and all his shots are landing at places....where Persson cannot seemed to reach or he don't know when is Chong Wei next shot. There is a few shots that Persson tried to be agressive...but I think he ran out of steam after the match against Taufik. The conclusion is to counter the deceptive player, you need to improve your footwork. To be able to cover the court. Delay your movement...stand still for a while until your opponent struck the shuttle...do not give him time to see your movement so that he can instantly change his direction. And you have to be very very fit. If you ran out of gas....very sorry. No other technique can help you...The fitter you are the less chances the deceptive player can do to you. The reason why some players are deceptive is because they are not truly fit...they need to use good wrist work to neutralize the agressive player and to make the opponent tires out. I notice many veteran players ( > 40 years ) to be very deceptive because they cannot affort to run much. The more experienced you are, the more deceptive you become because you can calculate where the shuttles are going compare to a more amature player.

 

im a deceptive player myself and all i can say is train your reflexes and footwork. And work on your shot variation. Thats all I can really say.

 

How to play against Deceptive Badminton players?

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Yes, it appears that esim619 might new to Badminton.

To master and to control the game, esim619 will need to play more, so as to understand how to play against Deceptive Badminton players.


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Heres a tip. if you're playing against a deceptive player, wait, wait, and keep waiting. move only once he has hit the shuttle. Oh, and you will need to have good footwork in order to do so, so work on that.
- Greg

 

As a deceptive player myself, the thing that ticks me off the most is pressure. You need to apply pressure and aggresion all the time. Its the key thing. Another thing is that you shouldnt give in to your emotions. Showing frustration will open your weakness to the opponent. Try and read their frustration.

 

tactics

Firstly the main tactic in singles is hit the shuttle as fast as u can away from your opponent. when i play with wearker players i can always guess their shots and they hit the shuttle to where i am therefore its easy to trick them.Secondly you have to play shuttles that are fast and well placed like from the time he serves u push it fast to his back hand when he lobs you can smash or when he nets u can spin it tightly so just dont give him time and run the shuttle away fast, and place the shuttle well you will be fine.But i suggest training your footwork,handstrength,sharpness and stamina

 

as already suggested, I would recommend just pushing the pace and always be on the balls of your feet. The less time you give them to do what they want, the less you will have to scramble for their fakes. of course this takes a phenomenal effort on your part, so you should be up to the task if that is how you want to play it out.