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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Scary performance from MK/HS. HS could control the shuttle with ease and change the pace even during lightning-fast flat drive exchanges...

    The most scary thing about this pair is, even thought they are already at the top of the world, they are still calmly improving...
    I haven't watched the match yet They were playing against Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi in the China Masters SF and won easily in straight sets.

    I still think that at his best, only a very fit Lee Yong Dae can beat Hendra Setiawan at the net.

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    what about hwang ji man and lee jae jin? I think, when they are on form, that they are better than LYD and his partner...., esp LJJ. (yes I know they lost to LYD in the all england, but still...it was pretty close)

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    Watched the game.....Hendra Setiawan was absolutely superb in his performance. His control of the game, touches, and emotion on the field were just unbelievable Certainly getting better with times Meanwhile, Markis Kido was as usual....raining down smashes from the back and sometimes coming up front too to show that he could be as good as Hendra Some small mistakes here and there from the World and Olympics Champions...but overall, their performance was simply irresistable

    On the other hand, Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi basically had no answers to match the World No 1 (despite the fact that they had been training together for so long). They were once leading 1-2 pts...but that was brushed off easily and they were back to trailing in no time. Totally outclassed and I think the coaches need to shuffle this partnership

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    Gunawan/Riyadi is totally demolished. I think they have no moral at the end of the match.

    On the other hand, it is possible that the familiarity of this younger pair (are Gunawan/Riyadi really younger? Somehow I have the impression that they are of similar ages as MK/HS) helped. MK/HS didn't do as well in the final.

    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Watched the game.....Hendra Setiawan was absolutely superb in his performance. His control of the game, touches, and emotion on the field were just unbelievable Certainly getting better with times Meanwhile, Markis Kido was as usual....raining down smashes from the back and sometimes coming up front too to show that he could be as good as Hendra Some small mistakes here and there from the World and Olympics Champions...but overall, their performance was simply irresistable

    On the other hand, Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi basically had no answers to match the World No 1 (despite the fact that they had been training together for so long). They were once leading 1-2 pts...but that was brushed off easily and they were back to trailing in no time. Totally outclassed and I think the coaches need to shuffle this partnership

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yong_Hui View Post
    MK/HS is good pair.......
    But, to fast to say they have bright future ahead...
    They will be a big target to be beaten by other pairs all over the world.....
    MK/HS need to prove that they can win any tourney in Euro.....
    what on earth are you talking about? a good pair! they are the current world champion, olympic champion and the world no 1 pair. they are simply the best.
    if they didnt performed that well in cold countries, so what? ask the danish or english players play in singapore or jakarta with the air-conditioning off to see how they perform!
    Last edited by AlanY; 10-02-2008 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    On the other hand, it is possible that the familiarity of this younger pair (are Gunawan/Riyadi really younger? Somehow I have the impression that they are of similar ages as MK/HS) helped. MK/HS didn't do as well in the final.
    Unfortunately, they are NOT YOUNG. Hendra A. Gunawan is 26 this year, turning 27, while Joko Riyadi is 23, just one year younger than Kido/Hendra. Likewise, Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki are both 23 this year.

    The young pair will be Bona Septano (Kido's younger brother) and Mohd Ahsan. Both are still 21 and started to show some good performances (esp in the Japan Open 2 weeks ago).

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    So, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan have won another 2 Super Series titles (back-to-back yet again) since winning the Beijing Olympics Gold Medal in August this year, including achieving one of the target they have yet to accomplish: winning in Europe!

    2 more tourneys before the well-deserved break in December....French Super Series next week and Hong Kong Super Series next mth. Can they win another title? Perhaps the French one will be a good addition since they have won the HKG one twice already

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    Seems the only pair that has the ability to stop an "in-form" MK/HS is JJS/LYD.

    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    So, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan have won another 2 Super Series titles (back-to-back yet again) since winning the Beijing Olympics Gold Medal in August this year, including achieving one of the target they have yet to accomplish: winning in Europe!

    2 more tourneys before the well-deserved break in December....French Super Series next week and Hong Kong Super Series next mth. Can they win another title? Perhaps the French one will be a good addition since they have won the HKG one twice already

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Seems the only pair that has the ability to stop an "in-form" MK/HS is JJS/LYD.
    IMHO, Jung/Lee, Koo/Tan (in their best form), and probably a team-mate (like Rian/Yoke) will be the pairs that can stop Kido/Hendra at the moment. Pairs that will give a close match will also include Paaske/Rasmussen and probably Fairuz/Zakry (at their best also).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Seems the only pair that has the ability to stop an "in-form" MK/HS is JJS/LYD.
    ..these 2 pairs met??..anyone knows??(maybe badMania knows)..I'm afraid with JJS' planned absence from the pro-circuit, we won't be seeing all 4 of them (both pairs) compete against each other in the near future..

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    since MK/HS have won almost everything there is to win, would it be a good idea to split them up and create new combination with rian sukmawan/yoke? so it'd be like hendra/rian and kido/yoke?i think it'll be neat for rian/yoke, they can improve a lot more...

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    I think INA MD coach will not split Kindra to improve another player like China did to CY/FHF..

    MK/HS is very solid partner and our number one MD. I think other pair like Rian/Yoke is a solid partner too.. Im sure they will improve in the future together..

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    One of the reason of the temporary CY/FHF split is because of CY's age....
    MK/HS are still relatively young (24yrs old). If they can maintain their form, they've good shot of being contender for 2012 OG as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..these 2 pairs met??..anyone knows??(maybe badMania knows)..I'm afraid with JJS' planned absence from the pro-circuit, we won't be seeing all 4 of them (both pairs) compete against each other in the near future..
    The last time they met each other was in the Thomas Cup SF, with Jung/Lee triumphing in rubber-set. The first set was closely fought, with the INA pair losing marginally 19-21, before they bounced back strongly to take the second set 21-18. However, the Korean pair was never going to let the INA pair control the game in the third set as they raced to a 14-4 lead in no time and the INA pair lost 10-21.

    The Korean pair also won in the Swiss Super Series Final, although Kido/Hendra took the first set 21-17 and had a 6-2 lead in the second set, before a spectacular collapse happened and they lost 16-21. They were trailing 10-11 in the rubber-set, but a change in court meant that they only managed to win another 3 pts to lose the decider 13-21.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abesadi View Post
    I think INA MD coach will not split Kindra to improve another player like China did to CY/FHF..

    MK/HS is very solid partner and our number one MD. I think other pair like Rian/Yoke is a solid partner too.. Im sure they will improve in the future together..
    Precisely, it's VERY UNLIKELY they are going to split up Kido/Hendra (just like Nova/Butet). They are going to split IF ONLY they have a dramatic loss of form and plumetted in the World Ranking, the chance of which is very small and unlikely to materialize within the next 1 year.

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    finally KinDra won tourney at Europe...
    It's prove that they can win anywhere...
    Wishfully they can continue their good performances at French this week...
    Go... KinDra!!!

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    One prestigious title is still elusive for Kido/Setiawan, hope they will crown All England title in March 2009!

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