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Thread: MK/HS: Bright future ahead?
10-28-2008, 10:50 AM #52
Again, I don't disagree with your last point on consistency. It does seem to me that the INA pair will only find their best form after the mid-year (in 2005-2008 at least). So far, I can only recall them winning 1 title before June, that's the MAS SS 2008. ALL the titles they had won were tournaments held after June
As for consistency during the match...I guess it affects all pairs, including the KOR pair. You also commented that if Koo/Tan and Kido/Hendra were to have 1.5 solid games against the KOR pair, they would have won the matches in the BAC and Swiss Open Finals this year, given their dominance in the first-set
10-28-2008, 10:59 AM #53
10-28-2008, 11:10 AM #54
FYI, just check out the scoring data of those recent two games if you want to know how strong the KOR team was against INA. INA just got tired out after winning a single set after much efforts. That was their limitation.
Last edited by narnia; 10-28-2008 at 11:24 AM.
10-28-2008, 11:20 AM #55
Especially, Kido is a fault-factory, who is a good target for their opponents. He makes many unforced errors mainly he's trying to approach to the net. HS is more consistent. So, the game's winning usually depends on how much Kido is in good form on that day. That fact is completely known to KOR. Please watch the videos. I watched them tens of times in both perspectives. By 2007, LYD was 18-19 yrs old under learning. JJS was inconsistent in his defense and net play like Kido but this year his front skills were tremendously improved to prove their strength as all of you watch it through the series of the games.
10-28-2008, 11:29 AM #56
Talk is cheap, but at the end of the day, the korean pair failed miserably at the grandest event in Badminton. That's the fact.
Last edited by badadum; 10-28-2008 at 11:32 AM.
10-28-2008, 11:36 AM #57
Besides, with JJS joining the army and getting older, do you really think he can continue keeping up with the so-called ever changing pace of the badminton world?
10-28-2008, 11:46 AM #58
Consistency throughout a match will require maintaining full consistency, which will be hard even for the best pair to do. Even Tony/Candra and Candra/Sigit at their best can't claim that they can maintain their consistency throughout a match. esp when facing fellow top pairs.
10-28-2008, 11:50 AM #59
There's always a weak link in every partnership and I believe our INA coaches also know what's the weakness in the KOR pair
Unfortunately, despite the superb and outstanding skills that Lee Yong Dae and Jung Jae Sung possess, you still can't deny the fact that they lost to an over-aged Danish pair in the first round of Olympics, who recently lost to a scratch pairing of Fu Haifeng/Shen Ye. This is something that of course did not happen to our "weak" INA pair. Well said indeed.
10-28-2008, 11:53 AM #60
10-28-2008, 12:08 PM #61
WOW... the way you guys kept mentioning the words "over-aged", "old", and all the other nasty things about how JR/LP are not as good any more... I wonder if you guys ever care about Jonas' feelings here considering he is still supposed to be a member in BC. and people in this forum think I don't care about others' feelings...LOL
Bottom line is this:
MK/HS has not reached the level of success of:
1. LCW (who is now a datuk)
2. LD (who is now making millions of $$$)
3. LYB (who is now controlling the biggest badminton team in the world)
4. Hafiz Hashim (who has made more $$$ from winning 1 AE than MK/HS for winning a lot more tournaments)
5. 1992 MAS thomas cup team (who even got land as reward)
Last edited by bananakid; 10-28-2008 at 12:15 PM.
10-28-2008, 12:11 PM #62
10-28-2008, 12:19 PM #63
10-28-2008, 12:45 PM #64
10-28-2008, 01:30 PM #65
They used too much energy in the 1st game, and MK/HS "woke up" in the 2nd. So I don't think that's an indication of CY/FHF being inconsistent. CY/FHF vs MK/HS, although the result may vary a little bit, in the past 2 - 3 years the situation on court is always the same...
10-28-2008, 02:37 PM #66
Compare Jonas/Lars's current form to their World Champion's year and even they will admit there's a difference. No one is immune to the effect of aging. And by badminton's standard, they do qualify for the "uncle" status.
Nonetheless, I seriously doubt they're as petty as you think.
MK/HS will be fine. They have accomplished a great task continuing INA's gold tradition and they did receive handsome reward for it. They also still have years to improve their skills and achievement.
Last edited by badadum; 10-28-2008 at 02:40 PM.
10-28-2008, 08:14 PM #67
Some guy doesn't understand the point: Just check recent head-to-head scores among the top 3 only: KOR, INA, CHN. Only that tells the true story who has fear against who, if you have any understanding of that the fear and confidence is the ultimate fighting source for the real top rankers.
Last edited by narnia; 10-28-2008 at 08:23 PM.
10-28-2008, 08:28 PM #68
MK/HS vs LYD/JJS = 3-3
MK/HS vs CY/FHF 3-1
CY/FHF vs LYD/JJS = 3-2
OG Gold -> MK/HS = 1 (LYD/JJS = 0, CY/FHF = 0)
World Championship title -> MK/HS = 1 (LYD/JJS = 0, CY/FHF = 1).
Why should MK/HS fear anyone? They're the #1 ranked pair, the world champion and the OG Gold medalist.They don't fear a pair that they beat for the gold medal, and certainly nothing to fear from a pair that can't even make it pass the 1st round of the olympic, especially now since one half of that pair can't even commit to badminton full time.
Last edited by badadum; 10-28-2008 at 08:35 PM.
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