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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    i remember that years ago when china first started to play in international tournaments, one year in all england 1/4 final 7 out of the 8 WS are chinese plus a danish. we dont really want to see that again, do we?

    as for min 8 SS to qualify, let say for the olympics year one can play in 7 SS and won them off plus the olympics gold metal and still not qualify for the 'FINAL'! what a joke.
    Actually, no one's stopping LD from missing SS tournaments.But LYB usually discourage LD from playing unless he has a good chance of winning.He knows it's not good for LD's image or confidence if LD were to lose in ,say,JO08,CM08,DO08 or FO08 after his sensational OG08 gold.Look at BCL, CJ and LCW.They have not been in impressive form after OG08.LYB had pulled LD out of IO07? after he lost to BP in SPO07? because LYB knew LD's confidence would drop and so in no condition to win IO07?
    But LD made the right decision to focus on OG.His OG gold is probably worth 20 years of winning SSF, judging from what taneepak said about LD's endorsement deals.Smart LD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    i remember that years ago when china first started to play in international tournaments, one year in all england 1/4 final 7 out of the 8 WS are chinese plus a danish. we dont really want to see that again, do we?

    as for min 8 SS to qualify, let say for the olympics year one can play in 7 SS and won them all plus the olympics gold metal and still not qualify for the 'FINAL'! what a joke.
    Not only LD, KOR MIX also wont qualify....the problem..most of gold medalists are happy and prefer not to particpate more tournaments after olympics.....Kido/Hendra participated right after Olympics...so why cant LD and KOR XD do same thing?

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    Because of late announcement from BWF and with minimum of 8 SS, many players wont qualify:

    LD
    XXF
    He Han bin/Yuyang (only 7 with upcoming HKG and China)
    FHF/CY
    XZB/Zhang Ya wen
    Flandy/Vita
    LYD/LHJ
    LHJ/her partner
    LYD/JJS
    Lee Jiman/his partner
    Reiko/Ogura
    Alvent/Luluk
    Park Sung Hwan
    One of Japanese MD

    Trust me!! If BWF let this announcement earlier, I am sure China wont split FHF and Cai Yun and will send HHB/YY to denmark ....
    I just think it is not fair..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by ants View Post

    Apparently the Association of the country knows. Maybe they didn't inform the coaches and the players?

    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post

    No even PBSI did not know at all.......not even DEN or China also...they did hear the rumour a week before BWF announced it...they did think it was supposed in China...

    I can say that this is being managed poorly........by BWF...

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    BWF cannot be blamed. And the all National Associations know it.

    For those who do not know, BWF is trying to follow the IOC (International Olympic Committee).

    BWF wanted to remain as an international non-governmental non-profit organisation, but an organiser of Badminton tournament schedules.

    BWF informed all National Associations that they wish to have a city to host the SS Finals. The city is to provide a venue for the tournament, accommodation (like an Olympic Village) for players and officials, advertisements/ticket sales for the event, etc...

    BWF said they will supply the prize monies of US$500,000.00. But all other incomes/expenses are to be earned/incurred by the host city. It's just like what the IOC do for the Olympics.

    Of course, BWF will look at how well the organising skills and the venue condition of previous sporting events held in that city.

    We, here in Melbourne, Australia, were given the OK to host the SS Finals. We have the skills and venue to hold it. Unfortunately, because Badminton is not as popular here, we couldn't get enough financial support from sponsors and the government. We estimated that we need to supply US$250,000.00 to hold the event. And we weren't sure that we could recuperate this amount through ticket sales. Eventually, we gave up our wish to host it, only just last week.

    Luckily, for us Badminton fans, Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia, said they would hold the event if Melbourne, Australia, couldn't.

    All our problems in holding Badminton tournaments go back to MONEY, not the management or the organising skills.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc View Post
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    BWF cannot be blamed. And the all National Associations know it.

    For those who do not know, BWF is trying to follow the IOC (International Olympic Committee). BWF wanted to remain as an international non-governmental non-profit organisation, but an organiser of Badminton tournament schedules.

    BWF informed all National Associations that they wish to have a city to host the SS Finals. The city is to provide a venue for the tournament, accommodation (like an Olympic Village) for players and officials, advertisements/ticket sales for the event, etc...

    BWF said they will supply the prize monies of US$500,000.00. But all other incomes/expenses are to be earned/incurred by the host city. It's just like what the IOC do for the Olympics.

    Of course, BWF will look at how well the organising skills and the venue condition of previous sporting events held in that city.

    We, here in Melbourne, Australia, were given the OK to host the SS Finals. We have the skills and venue to hold it. Unfortunately, because Badminton is not as popular here, we couldn't get enough financial support from sponsors and the government. We estimated that we need to supply US$250,000.00 to hold the event. And we weren't sure that we could recuperate this amount through ticket sales. Eventually, we gave up our wish to host it, only just last week.

    Luckily, for us Badminton fans, Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia, said they would hold the event if Melbourne, Australia, couldn't.

    All our problems in holding Badminton tournaments go back to MONEY, not the management or the organising skills.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

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    Trust me!! most of federations did not know that SS final will happen.....why?? last August I asked BWF and they are not sure if they will have it....so how you are so sure that all federations knows about it....we knew it last year guess what it did not happen...
    For example.Tony/Candra declined Copenhagen Master to join SS Final..guess what? no SS final and no Copenhagen for them either...who was to blame? BWF....
    Even last year..BWF said that they had sponsor but no host...I said that Jakarta could be the host..guess what? actually they had NO Sponsorship...thats all lies from BWF...even some players gave up about SS Final!!..again,..we will blame BWF...

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Because of late announcement from BWF and with minimum of 8 SS, many players wont qualify:


    Trust me!! If BWF let this announcement earlier, I am sure China wont split FHF and Cai Yun and will send HHB/YY to denmark ....
    I just think it is not fair..................
    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc View Post
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    Of course, BWF will look at how well the organising skills and the venue condition of previous sporting events held in that city.

    We, here in Melbourne, Australia, were given the OK to host the SS Finals. We have the skills and venue to hold it. Unfortunately, because Badminton is not as popular here, we couldn't get enough financial support from sponsors and the government. We estimated that we need to supply US$250,000.00 to hold the event. And we weren't sure that we could recuperate this amount through ticket sales. Eventually, we gave up our wish to host it, only just last week.

    Luckily, for us Badminton fans, Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia, said they would hold the event if Melbourne, Australia, couldn't.

    All our problems in holding Badminton tournaments go back to MONEY, not the management or the organising skills.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

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    So, the late announcement was due to no host country until last minute and BWF didnt want to suffer embarrassment of last year when it had to be cancelled. If they announced earlier but host country pulled out last minute, problem. If they dont announce earlier, the coaches & players cant plan accordingly,hmmm, catch 22.
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    Bottom line is it all comes down to money. If we were tennis, we'd have money all lined up years in advance, and therefore the schedule can be pretty much fixed from much early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisa View Post
    abg din, cat & kitten are considering, too..., Uncle Loh did ask...
    Hish, KK is too close for u, maybe u should do the honours of arranging our accommodation ..... I am too tired to do that with all my projects still on-going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Not only LD, KOR MIX also wont qualify....the problem..most of gold medalists are happy and prefer not to particpate more tournaments after olympics.....Kido/Hendra participated right after Olympics...so why cant LD and KOR XD do same thing?
    I don't think CHN care that much about SSF because of the max 2 per country rule.They indicated that before.KOR 's not bothered about ranking points even.
    But it matters to INA.
    The minimum 8 out of 12 SS participation is an excellent rule.Because of that,eg,TH decided to play in Shanghai as well and that certainly jazzes up the tournament.It's one way to ensure there are enough star players in almost all SS.Otherwise why call it Super Series?
    In the light of uncertainty of SSF,the sensible choice is to make sure to play in 8 tournaments for insurance.How difficult a decision is that? There should be no dilemma at all.
    I don't think Andrew Smith is a bad player when his head is in top form. He troubled Sony endlessly in TC08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    I don't think CHN care that much about SSF because of the max 2 per country rule.They indicated that before.KOR 's not bothered about ranking points even.
    But it matters to INA.
    The minimum 8 out of 12 SS participation is an excellent rule.Because of that,eg,TH decided to play in Shanghai as well and that certainly jazzes up the tournament.It's one way to ensure there are enough star players in almost all SS.Otherwise why call it Super Series?
    In the light of uncertainty of SSF,the sensible choice is to make sure to play in 8 tournaments for insurance.How difficult a decision is that? There should be no dilemma at all.
    I don't think Andrew Smith is a bad player when his head is in top form. He troubled Sony endlessly in TC08.
    I did ask TH why he suddenly likes to play in China...he said that he needed to be in top 8 ranking so he can be seeded from next year...at the same time...He loves Shanghai....TH funded himself with these 2 tourneys...I think Paulus will go with him...He has no idea about SS finale....all INA players talked about it when SS finale is on the website...most of them complained that BWF did not let PBSI know ....Vita mentioned that if she knew she would fund herself with Flandy for HKG and china Open...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    Why should sponsors hide their identity? Wouldn't they want to be known so they can earn goodwill or increased sales from it?
    I heard French Open is funded by Arabian businesmen..The organizer did not want to reveal the source......

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    I heard French Open is funded by Arabian businesmen..The organizer did not want to reveal the source......
    Oh, so uniquely badminton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    I heard French Open is funded by Arabian businesmen..The organizer did not want to reveal the source......
    Not Arabian.. from Dubai.. i dont know if Dubaians is considered Arabian..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ants View Post
    Not Arabian.. from Dubai.. i dont know if Dubaians is considered Arabian..
    Yes...Dubai is in middle east.....may be we call them Middle easterner..
    Teasing them to increase to US$ 300K...those money is nothing for them...

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    Does anybody know who is the sponsor of this SS Finals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Trust me!! If BWF let this announcement earlier, I am sure China wont split FHF and Cai Yun and will send HHB/YY to denmark ....
    I just think it is not fair..................
    Yes... you're right...

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