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Thread: Mavis 500 - they're actually ok
04-09-2009, 11:06 AM #69
Originally Posted by Oldhand;1141719
I was only defending the accusation that PP are less skilled. Pros use feather and therefore feather is great too is another falsed logic. As u (and I) have point out that to each of their domain. A truly skilled player should be able play proficiently and adapt quickly to ANY EQUIPS. If u look at racket threads, replies to newbies asking for best racket recommendation were all saying it is not the rackets, it is player's skill. Why can't this be said for shuttle? If both side of the court uses only one type of shuttle for competition, isn't the winner has the most skills, not on equips differences?
We PP never bashes FP, unfortunately, some FP is too rigid to admit their narrow range of playability of shuttles.
04-09-2009, 11:21 AM #70
1. 99% of north americans national does train and use feathers since becoming pros. A noob using mavis has no relationship of andrew debaka losing the andre at 09 racket rally.
2. We're also lousy in ping pong, is it because we are using different balls than the chinese in china?
3, chinese gymnasts are superior to the rest of the world from the last OG results. Is it because they wore natural cotton underwear and the rest of the world gymnasts wore nylon/polyester underwear?
Keep bashing north american players, u will surely hasten popularity of badminton BWF is not dumb as u taneepak, if they do what u suggested, badminton will be out of OG and popularity drop faster than your loose shorts.
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but i still like to see a photo of taneepak eating a dish of steamed fish with rye bread
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04-09-2009, 01:52 PM #81
"[Why] are you only cherry picking a small segment of the badminton population to make your case? All the top pros in the world don't even add up to 1% of all badminton players. I rather bank my argument on 99% of the cases."
This post was one in a nasty exchange deleted in entirety by another moderator.
For relying on a deleted post, I offer my apologies.
If I misunderstood the excerpt, you might want to clarify it
04-09-2009, 02:02 PM #82
Could it not be that North Americans are not as interested in badminton as they are in some other sport more popular in their part of the world?
For instance, North Americans don't do well in sepak takraw or kabbadi or cricket. Does it mean that they are hooked on 'inferior' versions of these sports or their accessories?
I share your contempt for the plastic shuttle.
But I do not share your contempt for its users
04-09-2009, 02:06 PM #83
In that post, i was highlighting now silly was X's post. He wanted to rumble and said pros use feather and therefore feather is the best blah blah blah. If someone uses such silly logic, he should at least talk about the other 99% noobs that uses feathers as well. I wasn't using 99% noob feather users to support my plastic case either. I was just illustrating the fallacy of his logic. Obviously X's rumbling couldn't get him onto the first base.
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04-09-2009, 02:23 PM #84
You almost made a deletion redundant.
Of course, the names had to be removed
04-09-2009, 08:25 PM #85
Wow, this post is getting far fro the original topic (if Mavis 500, is decent enough for Semi-serous competition)... I have a strong opinion that its flight properties and consistency are not good enough of these shuttles for higher-level play.
The only reason to use them imop is to save money, and I think a majority of players have the economic means to afford great shuttles, if they really want to.
Of course if players play just for fun and excerise and have not got strong smashes and technique I can see that it does not make sense to "invest" in better shuttles. However my hope is that many of these players will see the beauty of badminton as a more competetive sport.. start following super-series, olympics, wc etc.. and really get interested in badminton as a sport, not just as a recreational game.
I agree with the point Kwun, oldhand make, about plastic-shuttles hardly can be blamed for most non-asian countries poort results in badminton, Cooler brilliantly (sometimes even a blind chicken finds a kernel of corn ) highlights this in his post, i think:
Looking at my own country where plastic badminton are "huge" compared to "real"badminton in tems of players (a majority just plays for excersise recreation, and are clueless even about many rules....) I woul say its the other way around as to what Taneepaks view is..
Plastic in US, Canada, Sweden etc. is big becuase badminton is not seen as a athletic competetive sport , and is small as a sport, but huge as excersise, recreation.. I think plastic are popular simply becuase most players have not been exposed/educated about the "real" sport of badminton, but know only the lame "backyard" version and thus have no reference and therefore are highly satisifed with plastic..
The more exposure and KNOWLEDGE about badminton as a sport, the more people will use feathers, that is my firm beileife. As they will demand "better" more competetive stuff. I think that is the main reason why feather shuttle are more commonly used in countries where badminton is a popular sport, and often shown on TV etc...
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