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Thread: Mavis 500 - they're actually ok
04-10-2009, 04:57 PM #103
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04-10-2009, 05:22 PM #106
Those asians the immigrated to canada and adopted mavis shuttles have lived their adult back home in asia. They are quite proficient feather players before arriving canada. I didn't say all do that, i say big bib portion of asian badminton switched to mavis where i lived. Sure they care about shuttle performance, that is why they like mavis because they don't degrade flight performance after every hit. Mavis retain flight performance much longer than feather.
Last edited by cooler; 04-10-2009 at 05:26 PM.
04-10-2009, 05:56 PM #107
04-10-2009, 06:18 PM #108
04-10-2009, 06:21 PM #109
04-10-2009, 06:23 PM #110
alright, gentlemen, agree to disagree?
04-10-2009, 06:24 PM #111
04-10-2009, 06:31 PM #112
04-10-2009, 07:27 PM #113
Calgary, as cooler has mentioned various times before, require use of very slow grade shuttle, can the availability of the speed 46 feather be a factor in choosing plastic over feather?
04-10-2009, 07:34 PM #114
That is highly possible. 4.6 grams shuttlecocks may not last as long as 5.2 grams ones. So, the situation comes back to economics in the end.
And I have no idea of the situation in Toronto. Can someone fill us in?
In the meantime gentlemen, let's relax and enjoy Canadian taxpayers' contribution to CBC: http://www.cbc.ca/radio2/channels/po...ream=classical
Last edited by Pete LSD; 04-10-2009 at 07:38 PM.
04-10-2009, 07:46 PM #115
1. Correct speed here is 4.6 - 4.7g feathers, very hard to get. Can't buy bulk. Correct speed is AS20 speed 00 in the summer. In winter, we can use yonex speed 0. Even if we buy other brands with slow speed rating, the feather shuttle don't fly in correct speed as they claimed. I still got alot of tronex with 74 speed rating that fly like 78.
2. Even with speed 0 yonex or 48 of other brands, we have to tip the feathers so we basically wreck the shuttle before we even start playing.
3. I also guess that some shuttle makers may use 'lighter' weight feathers in making slow shuttle. One can't just use lighter cork because it would offset the balance of the shuttle if we want them to tumble the same way.
Last edited by cooler; 04-10-2009 at 07:50 PM.
04-10-2009, 08:15 PM #116
i like to add another reason why north american still not breaking loose from plastic. U see, all the feather playing dominated regions have REAL badminton courts and facilities. IE good lighting, good floor, and GOOD background contrast. What is the point of playing expensive feathers on crappy floor, crappy lighting and WHITE walls and ceiling? At least mavis 300 come in yellow. I think i have nailed it. Would taneepak order fresh dim sum as takeout, and eat it with plastic fork, inside his car or around the parking lot? That is why people buy 'FAST' food from takeout and not steak and lobster from McDonald. I think people would appreciate feathers if they can play on real courts. Taneepak say one can't appreciate full badminton with plastic. Well, just switching to feather but still stuck with crappy floor, lighting, walls, feather alone doesn't give u the full badminton experience. I would say ~100% plastic clubs play on rented school gyms, with white walls and ceiling. Just go check, i can say ~100% feather clubs have proper baddy courts.
summary: availability of correct speed shuttles and/or proper courts are the key key reasons why NA is slow to adopt feathers.
Last edited by cooler; 04-10-2009 at 08:18 PM.
04-10-2009, 08:33 PM #117
04-10-2009, 08:55 PM #118
toronto was a plastic town but recent clubs like flying dragon, mandarin and lees are changing the shuttle preference. Here is some facts, In Toronto, there are still 228 clubs registered with the Ontario Badminton Association, which majority are operated within rented school, community and church hall gyms. In calgary, we only have 11 proper (private clubs, wooden floors, we have no mats period) badminton courts, the rest are played on rented school gyms, and recreational centres which are multi function. As a point, here is the private calgary winter club, which has 5 of the 11 real badminton courts in calgary, advertising Kim Dong Moon badminton academy, have a look at the webpage
ENTRANCE FEE: Current Entrance Fee is $30,000.00.
Ages 25-29 (on parents account) $925.00
Ages 18-24 (on parents account) $425.00
Dependent Child (0 - 17 years) $313.00
*Family Senior (65+yrs) $313.00
Facility Improvement Fund $240.00
KDM is extra
Last edited by cooler; 04-10-2009 at 09:04 PM.
04-10-2009, 09:07 PM #119
esp since the preference of plastic is not by choice, but by economics.
for situation that have both financial and climate freedom, where players are not limited by budgets as well as air pressure concern, we see that the majority of players, even in N. America have already adopted feathers.
i just want to point out that i am not trying to claim which one is better, i am just trying to state what i think is the trend.
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