Shoulder Joint Problem

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  1. smashingmark

    smashingmark Regular Member

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    Hi Guys,

    These days when I play, I've been having some sharp pains in the joint of my right shoulder whenever I smash. The pain hurts so bad after I smash and at times I cant even lift my hand up.

    Have any of you experienced this before? If yes, would really need some tips on what can I do to recover from this..

    ciao da mao,
    smashingmark
     
  2. dukke88

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    I just had the same problem last week...I stopped badminton for a whole week :| to let the shoulder rest a bit... But its back to normal now :)
     
  3. Gollum

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    Shoulder injuries are common in badminton. See a doctor; effective diagnosis on the forums is impossible.
     
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    Agree. Go see a doctor soon. I waited a bit but kept playing just as hard. That messed up my shoulder so bad that I had to pull back all my smashes and also play with my left. Only now is it nearly healed after 10 months. Lesson learned especially when you start getting old.
     
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    "some sharp pains in the joint" - rest your arm and get some glucosomine supplement will speed up recovery.
     
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    I have the same thing and it's an ongoing issue... Fastest way to recover is by doing shoulder exercises and holding back on smashes... that said, you should see a doctor and get referred to a physiotherapist.

    You could also "quit" badminton. I'm at the point where I'll just play through the pain, I won't quit!
     
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    i have the same problem and so now i hold back on my smashes. at the same time i've sort of changed my action a bit by concentrating on more wrist work. in the short term rest and exercises with a theraband to strengthen rotator cuff muscles help and so do NSAIDs but you cant keep taking those drugs as they cause stomach ulcers.
     
  8. Fidget

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    Beware...

    ...shoulder problems that start out mild or temporary can become chronic.

    Definitely rest it while waiting to see a doc or physiotherapist.
    You must settle the current inflammation. And then you gotta strengthen not only the rotator cuff, but all the positional muscles that help your rotator cuff stay healthy.
    Here is one site on some exercises ( I think it was previously posted somewhere in BC). http://www.usaswimming.org/USASWeb/...5&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en-US&mid=700&ItemId=700
    But this site doesn't replace getting good personalized advice.

    I am not aware that glucosamine is proven useful in acute injury. Considering its claim is for cartilage repair in osteoarthritic joints, it seems unlikely it will help with what is most likely a tendon problem. But if there's data out there to the contrary, please post.
     
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    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for all your feedback.. Somehow I've taken glucosamine and it does not seem to work.. Rest i've tried but after 2 weeks or more the pain is still there.. Am trying push ups to strenghten the muscles however there are slight improvements..

    Right now, I have that fear in my head on smashing hard cause i'm worried that the injury will be worse..

    ciao
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  10. Gollum

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    Dammit Mark, stop taking medical advice from untrained people whom you've never met!

    What makes you think that popping a pill will sort out your injury? Glucosamine/chondroitin is a joint care supplement; although it's probably not a bad supplement for you, it's extremely unlikely to solve your current problem.

    Depending on the nature of your injury, it may not be appropriate for you to be doing certain exercises. Push-ups, although generally a good thing, could be harmful at this time. You must get yourself assessed by a doctor -- preferably a sports specialist. You need to start getting information about your shoulder, and you won't find that on the internet.
     
  11. Fidget

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    Amen to that.

    (in fairness, all the well-meaning posters advised getting assessed)
     
  12. Taffy2

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    I have had exactly the same problem that has spanned across a 10 year period.....previous visits to the physio have resulted in short term relief but only due to the fact that I did not really adhere to the rehabilitation exercises.

    The problem may lie with the fact that you have possibly an inflammation of the supraspinatus tendon that runs across the top of the shoulder and attaches at the top of the upper arm. Any overhead throwing action causes a pinching of this tendon so causing pain.

    I recently decided that I had to do something to resolve this and had x-rays taken to see if there was any caclification of the tendon, luckily there was not. I only needed 3 physio visits and have rigorously adhered to the rotator cuff strengthening exercises given. This strictness to performing the exercises has allowed more blood flow to this tendon attachment so allowing the inflammation to subside quicker. I now make sure that my shoulder is warmed thouroughly before hitting and I am now able to play as before.....

    Do a search on supraspinatus injuries and I'm sure you will find that this is your problem.....it is the most common shoulder problem in racket sport athletes.

    This link may help you...

    http://www.fitnessprof.com/advice/advice.php?aaid=102&acid=3
     
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    i had this before. best solution is u need to see a good sport massage who can relax your vein on the shoulder. it is caused by playing too much badminton and little warm ups and wrong technique of hitting too. i got mine healed after i see a qualified sport massage (with certificate) place owned by former olympics champion susi susanti and alan budikusuma. but ur shoulder is still weak after that. u need to rest for 2 weeks. but with the right hitting technique and footworks it feels fine now. if not, it just keeps coming back, even after it's healed. its just irritating.
     
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    I agree. I am still experiencing that. Do a lot of warming up. first,second, third game, take them easy. When you are fully warm up. You will not get that very often i think.
    cheers
     
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    No, you probably didn't. :p You most likely had a different problem, with a different solution.

    And even when the injury is "the same", the treatment can vary greatly depending on the severity of the injury.

    Not necessarily. I thought my shoulder injury was a supraspinatus problem; but the MRI scan revealed that it was actually a labrum problem.

    There are lots of different shoulder injuries. I could regale you with tales of my shoulder injury, but there's a good chance it's nothing like your shoulder injury.

    What works for one injury does not necessarily work for another. It's essential that you identify your injury by consulting a medical professional.
     
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    To Echo what Gollum says (and to his credit repeatedly says when similar threads crop up:

    -Self diagnosis or Forum diagnosis is impossible

    -All joints are complex body parts and similar pain in similar areas can be caused by opposite factors and conditions - thus a mis-diagnosis can make the situation worse

    -You must see a capable and qualified doctor who can refer you to the correct specialist (IE physio, surgeon, chiropractor etc...) in order that your condition can be treated

    I myself have been guilty of not following this advice and it is likely I will suffer from a number of conditions for the rest of my life. It is not fun.
     
  17. Taffy2

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    The poster if he had any sense would not be asking for a diagnosis on an open forum, he would instead seek sound medical advice from a professional.....he had problems when smashing as did I.....I was merely letting him know of the possibility of a potential cause....yes it may be something different but, more likely than not all he needs is to rest it and strengthen the rotator cuff muscles....as stated previously most shoulder probs are rotator cuff related and the supraspinatus is noted as being the most common problem area....but to reiterate, if he wants a cast iron diagnosis then he should not expect it from an open forum.
     
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    Actually I did have the same problem in that everytime I smashed the bird I had a sharp pain in my shoulder.....

    I also said it may be a supraspinatus inflammation ....

    To conclude I said to do a supraspintus search as it is the most common injury for racket players.....

    I was not saying that this is definitely his problem and was fairly sure that there would be others with other problem solutions...

    If he is really concerned about an accurate diagnosis then he should not be asking a forum full of unqualified strangers for advice ...

    Thanks for the friendly welcome to the forum...:(
     
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    What excercises has the physio given you? I have been undertaking excercises using a theraband for nearly a year now, with pretty good results.
     
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    Internal and external rotation from various angles, the full can exercise as empty can puts too much stress on the supraspinatus upper arm attachment ....I was told to keep the area mobile and to keep it heated as much as possible to allow more blood to flow to the area as the tendon attachment is the last part of the tendon to have adequate blood supply which slows down the healing process. Glad to say that following this treat ment plan to the letter has almost solved the problem completely after only 4 weeks .......

    Moral of this story is - don't stop recuperation advice even if the problem has decreased.....and seems to be better.
     

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