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    Quote Originally Posted by venkatesh View Post
    It's allowed as long as your racket doesn't go over the net.
    Yes.

    But I'm sure it was forbidden ten years ago when I was U15.
    Anyway, it doesn't change the fact it's really annoying and frustrating when you're in good position to kill .
    Last edited by killass; 06-09-2009 at 08:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killass View Post
    Yes.

    But I'm sure it was forbidden ten years ago when I was U15.
    Anyway, it doesn't change the fact it's really annoying and frustrating when you're in good position to kill .
    Yeah, sadly it seems changed.

    Take a look at this video, in the rally around 5:40;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5YruyBHhI

    Jonassen did it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by killass View Post
    Yes.

    But I'm sure it was forbidden ten years ago when I was U15.
    Anyway, it doesn't change the fact it's really annoying and frustrating when you're in good position to kill .
    Yeah, sadly it seems changed; take a look at this video around 5:40;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5YruyBHhI

    Jonassen did the block!

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    Quote Originally Posted by killass View Post
    Yes.

    But I'm sure it was forbidden ten years ago when I was U15.
    Anyway, it doesn't change the fact it's really annoying and frustrating when you're in good position to kill .

    It's annoying and frustrating that your opponent is trying to legally defend from a netkill? What should they do, turn around and give up like many pros do when the opponent jumps for a netkill? It is their side of the court, isn't it? And as mentioned by others, if they obstruct your follow-through, you win, and if you push to the rear, you win. Still sounds like a very favourable situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjashik View Post
    It's annoying and frustrating that your opponent is trying to legally defend from a netkill? What should they do, turn around and give up like many pros do when the opponent jumps for a netkill? It is their side of the court, isn't it? And as mentioned by others, if they obstruct your follow-through, you win, and if you push to the rear, you win. Still sounds like a very favourable situation.
    Yes because when you make a tight net shot and your oponent a poor, you are in a good situation to netkill...but no, you can't netkill or you will shock rackets.

    Just look at Lin Dan or LCW, they can defend net kill aha .

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    Yes, this is rather annoying in club play when they try to block my net kill follow-through (contact on my side). If I do follow through, there will be a racket clash, and my $100 racket will likely break. Since I'd rather keep my racket, I'm forced to lift. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mettayogi View Post
    Yes, this is rather annoying in club play when they try to block my net kill follow-through (contact on my side). If I do follow through, there will be a racket clash, and my $100 racket will likely break. Since I'd rather keep my racket, I'm forced to lift. Sigh.
    Then you must be really annoyed when the shuttle clips the net and comes over as it's nearly impossible to return those as they are so tight. This forces you to do a lift that probably won't make it or if it does, it's so shallow that it's an easy kill.

    What I get annoyed at is when my partner or I fail to kill off an easy point (e.g. when the front player smashes an easy kill into the net - DOH!). I do not get annoyed if my opponent makes a great play, either offensive or defensive - otherwise I would not want to play better players. Plus, if you ever play v-ball, it's normal to try to block

    Also, the net kill swipe isn't a hard swing like a smash, so even if the rackets do clash, it shouldn't cause a break - maybe a paint chip at most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesd20 View Post
    Yes this video is the correct one....Illustrates this topic well.
    What a brilliant video! Great to see Ken Jonassen having a laugh about it as well.

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    I was referring to my tap down of of a loose shot (say 1 feet above tape), not brush kill. Brush kill can be returned sometimes.

    Nope. I appreciate opponent's good play such as a tight net shot. They bring out the best play in me.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjashik View Post
    Then you must be really annoyed when the shuttle clips the net and comes over as it's nearly impossible to return those as they are so tight. This forces you to do a lift that probably won't make it or if it does, it's so shallow that it's an easy kill.

    What I get annoyed at is when my partner or I fail to kill off an easy point (e.g. when the front player smashes an easy kill into the net - DOH!). I do not get annoyed if my opponent makes a great play, either offensive or defensive - otherwise I would not want to play better players. Plus, if you ever play v-ball, it's normal to try to block

    Also, the net kill swipe isn't a hard swing like a smash, so even if the rackets do clash, it shouldn't cause a break - maybe a paint chip at most.

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    Blocking the net when the shuttle is above the tape is certainly a fault because it prevents a legitimate follow through (see rule 13.4.4). Blocking when your opponent is about to play a lift or a net shot is not expressedly a fault (although I think it used to be many years ago) but is it prohibited under rule 13.4.5 - distracting your opponet? I think that it is because the offender is not attempting to play a shot at all - the shuttle had not even been touched by the other player. It also causes a risk to players and rackets and is arguably a misconduct (which is a fault).

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    Well it IS legal but only in case that you DO NOT HAVE YOUR RACKET ON OPPONENTS SIDE OF THE NET

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    I have to doubt the legality of this shot, i can see why its nearly useless in singles- there's no way they can get a push back. But in doubles... if the shot was legal surely all the pro's would be using it as the rear court player could retrive a clear/push?... i don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony2504 View Post
    Blocking the net when the shuttle is above the tape is certainly a fault because it prevents a legitimate follow through (see rule 13.4.4). Blocking when your opponent is about to play a lift or a net shot is not expressedly a fault (although I think it used to be many years ago) but is it prohibited under rule 13.4.5 - distracting your opponet? I think that it is because the offender is not attempting to play a shot at all - the shuttle had not even been touched by the other player. It also causes a risk to players and rackets and is arguably a misconduct (which is a fault).
    1. It maybe very difficult to judge the intention of the racket lifting: it may be just defensive actions in a speedy play.

    2. The blocking action can be considered as a legitimate freedom of play from the opponent's view point.

    3. The player may have to watch the defensive blocking action from his or her opponent and execute different ways of attack to prevent any crash.

    Overall, I suspect that the rule was adopted in favor of the defense side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafffa View Post
    I have to doubt the legality of this shot, i can see why its nearly useless in singles- there's no way they can get a push back. But in doubles... if the shot was legal surely all the pro's would be using it as the rear court player could retrive a clear/push?... i don't know
    Actually, I saw it's happening more in singles and it works sometimes.

    In doubles, it is practically very difficult to use it due to the far speedy plays.

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    One of my friends does this in singles. He jumps in to the net, then makes some kind of noise to put you off. The best thing to do is lift it back, they're too close to the net to meaningfully return your shot.

    If they are so close to the net chances are they messed up their previous shot and the net thing is a do or die manoeuvre. So you are on the offensive in this case, so have nothing to fear.

    Trying to kill the shot is not necessarily a good idea, as their racket will be there hoping to hit it. Although if you do succeed you'll probably scare them off a bit, especially if you hit them or their racket. Even more so if they're using yonex "insert expensive model here" and you put a cheap racket in your bag, just to play them

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    i do the net block when im messing about with my mates not in proper games.

    the downfall of the shot is that if you do it at one side of the court you are exposed for a cross court which most the time they do and win the point (this is only in non serious games)

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    In amateur plays, the intentional and repeated exercises of this type of action will be considered "dirty" plays to your opponents and they will have difficulties to enhance their genuine skills.

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