View Poll Results: What is your Resting heart rate (bpm)?
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50 and below - Super fit
50-59 - Very fit
60-69 - Above average fitness
70-79 - Average fitness
80-89 - Slightly below average fitness
90-99 - Quite unfit
100 and above - Very unfit
08-21-2006, 04:26 AM #86Originally Posted by 2NDround
Say if you have two players, both with an MHR of 200, but after 5 mins' of rest following exercises that pushed them to their 200 MHR limit, one player's resting heart rate is 80 and the other 100, the former will still have more 'gas' and he will also have an endurance advantage.
08-21-2006, 06:42 AM #87
Fitness is not determined by any measurement of heart rate, although a number of heart rate measures may be used as indicators of fitness.
Fitness is determined by an individual's ability to perform a certain type and intensity of work for a certain length of time.
MHR is a limiting factor in elite aerobic endurance as athletes get older. MHR is not directly responsive to training, but long-term fitness training may reduce its age-related decline substantially.
Resting pulse rate may be used as a crude indicator of fitness, but comparisons between individuals are far less meaningful than using it as a measure of an individual's response to training.
Lactic threshold is arguably a more useful indicator of fitness. A person's lactic threshold is the highest heart rate at which he can continue to work purely aerobically. Lactic threshold is responsive to training.
As you say, heart rate return time is also a useful general indicator of fitness. Generally speaking, after exercise a fitter person's heart rate will drop faster than a less fit person.
Last edited by Gollum; 08-21-2006 at 06:45 AM.
08-21-2006, 09:10 AM #88Originally Posted by taneepak
Example: A young normal person age 20 years. Rough estimate of his MHR will be 220-20 = 200. And an older very fit person age 40 years. Rough estimate of his MHR will be 220-40 = 180.
Because the young person did not do any serious trainning, the best he can perform continuously is at 70% MHR, which is 140. The older person, because he is very fit can continuously perform at 80% MHR, which is 144. By this example, we can see that the young person do not realise his maxmum potential because of lack of trainning and thus, the older person can perform better than him.
You are right that a person that can recover faster will have an advantage. But a person that can perform at a higher lever will not need to recover!
It is impossible to perform at a greater intensity that your MHR. It is a limiting factor perculiar to each individual.
Last edited by 2NDround; 08-21-2006 at 09:20 AM.
08-21-2006, 09:47 AM #89Originally Posted by 2NDround
08-21-2006, 10:55 AM #90Originally Posted by taneepak
08-21-2006, 02:06 PM #91Originally Posted by taneepak
You are confusing the formula-predicted MHR with your actual MHR. Your actual MHR must be at least 182, which is significantly higher than the value predicted by the formula.
It is possible, however, to exceed your formula-predicted MHR. This simply means the prediction was not accurate.
There are alternative formula predictions, but none are satisfactory. The only way to determine your true MHR is to have an exercise stress test performed under appropriate medical supervision.
08-21-2006, 08:03 PM #92
How do I measure the MHR ? Just play as hard as possible and then measure my pulse ? That's close to my MHR ?
My resting bp is around 55 and I can last 2 singles matches of the old 15 pt system consecutively (maybe 1-2 mins break in between while changing courts and shuttles) but usually very very exhausted afterwards.
Looks like most badminton players have lower pulse than an avg person. How about other sports? Say, tennis or squash ?
08-22-2006, 02:17 AM #93Originally Posted by Monster
I have a friend, an ex Hong Kong singles champion who used to train with a pulse monitor, as a way to improve his fitness. The goal is to get a huge pulse difference between your resting heart rate and your maximum heart rate and to get a below 90 pulse rate after 5 minutes rest following a prolonged exercise when you have hit your maximum pulse rate.
08-22-2006, 04:12 AM #94Originally Posted by Monster
It's possible to approximate an exercise stress test using a running track and specific run/rest ratios. I can't remember the programme.
A more practical method for most people is just to go for a run. Warm up, then run for a short time at your normal speed. Then run all-out at 100% effort. Rest until you're ready to do this again. After a few tries (less than ten, probably less than five), your performance (and HR) will drop and you should end the test.
During this test, you keep watching your HR monitor and record the highest (sensible) number that it shows. If you've got a fancy HR monitor, it may record the maximum achieved HR for you!
This number becomes you "working" MHR. Your actual MHR may be slightly higher; if you repeat the test, always choose your highest scores (so if you get a lower score on a second test, ignore it).
Every few years you will need to start again and retest from scratch (due to the expected 1 BPM drop per year).
Last edited by Gollum; 08-22-2006 at 04:19 AM.
08-22-2006, 11:59 AM #95Originally Posted by taneepak
If you have been trainning regularly, you will feel confortable playing at a level nearer your MHR than another person who train irregularly. Youth is not an automatic passport to fitness, as the saying goes 'no sweat, no gain'. The 20 years old may not be as fit as you and thus cannot play at a higher level than 162 (81% of his MHR which is actually very good if he can maintain this rate for more than 10 mins). He could also be very fit but is taking it easy.
08-29-2006, 03:13 AM #96
64 BPM here.
I'm happy with that.
08-29-2006, 04:28 AM #97
Well, my resting heart rate is sometimes as low as 49 bpm.
Apparently I'm "Super Fit". I don't believe that for a moment
More realistically, I'm modestly fit and I have a genetic predisposition towards very low resting heart rate (my dad also has a low HR).
Last edited by Gollum; 08-29-2006 at 04:30 AM.
08-29-2006, 04:37 AM #98
mine is 51 now after replying some forum threads... hehehe
08-29-2006, 12:52 PM #99
i'm "very fit", although it doesn't seem like it lol.
08-29-2006, 01:08 PM #100
humm i play singles what is my BPM....45 is good.
edit: oh yah my MHR is like 100
Last edited by martin8768; 08-29-2006 at 01:11 PM.
08-30-2006, 03:40 AM #101Originally Posted by martin8768
That would mean you have the predicted MHR of a person 120 years old
If your MHR is 100, then you can't really exercise at all.