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    it is up to the manufacturer to educate/convince the market what they don't know they need. since you are not Steve Jobs, you cannot expect the market to buy everything you build.

    that's marketing!

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    I do not think that I want to try to convince the badminton market about products but about systems which are in the advantage of stringers and very certainly of the players.

    In my opinion it is rediculous that the tennis world uses stiffness testers for more than 20 years and string on stiffness more and more while the badmintonworld denies the need of such a system and string on rediculous stiffnesses in relation to the stiffness of the frames.

    It seems that the badminton world prefers to stay with the old days.

    Of course there could be good reasons which I do not know.

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    Perhaps it is useful to start a new thread about "stringing on stiffness with badminton", and see if it makes sense or not.

    We might learn from each other.

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    Now, that is a real pity. But if anything comes out please let us know. I for one, am game.

    Lets see if the more knowledgeable people on the forum want to start this stiffness thread.
    Last edited by Kiloo; 09-01-2011 at 02:33 AM.

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    Default Badminton activities on Stringing Happening

    Hello,

    We organize a big stringing happening in the Netherlands.
    We tested the badminton activities that will be demonstrated yesterday:

    We are going to compares the stiffness of badminton stringbeds after stringing at the same tension with different strings:



    The production version of the cross stringer for badminton is thoroughly tested at the moment:



    We did the first stringtests, like we do with tennis strings also:

    http://www.stringway-nl.com/pdf/REKT...ON-SNAREN1.pdf

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    At last some movement. Hey! Its been a whole year. Im still interested in that tension tester. The cross stringer looks cute too. Hope things move faster from here on.Keep us posted. Cheers.

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    Default new developments

    At last some movement. Hey!
    Developing new costs a lot of time and we have to do that when the production is not so busy, and it is very busy.

    But the new stiffness tester also makes progress, we have the electronic system and this is how it is going to look.



    It is the same principle as the Runanor system only updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stringtechno View Post
    Developing new costs a lot of time and we have to do that when the production is not so busy, and it is very busy.
    I KNOW exactly what u mean, being in produxion myself.
    Ok just keep at it and remember u have a keen client at the other end of the world. Btw I came to Holland in April. Went to a fair in Maastricht on Polyurethane. Cheers

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    Hi guys,
    Our cross stringer for badminton is ready for production.
    This video shows the tool in action.
    http://www.stringway-nl.com/movie/Ba...ssstr_0001.wmv

    Although the stringer is a tennis stringer who has some problems with the thin, I hope that it shows how the tool works.

    A special preproduction offer counts until 31 december.




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    whow! its been a while in the making. Great stuff. How much?

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    1) Thank you so much for spending time and shut the video. It is so much clear.
    2) It is a plus you can use your tool to line up the cross string straight. Very well done.
    3) I would agree this is a great aide to beginners. It will cut down a lot of mistake.

    Here are some questions.
    1) In your video, you took your time to show how your tool work. Just wondering, how long does it take to finish up a badminton racquet (ie, the MP racquet in your video)?
    2) As I stated before, your tool will not work on the last 4 or 5 crosses (depend on the racquets) which you never finish in your video. Any plan to address that?
    3) I assume your tool will work on more than 75% badminton racquets out there. Any plan to address the new smaller frame racquets?

    Sorry, you still have not convince me at this point yet.

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    how about put it up in youtube?

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    the real test would be:

    - give it to a beginner. and see if it speeds up their stringing
    - give it to a experience stringer, <25mins one, and see if it speeds up their stringing.

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    I do not think that the major advantage of the tool is speed, it is convenience.
    It is better for your back, easier on your fingers and better for the string.

    The advantage is also that you can pull the string through very fast without friction.

    I do think that most badminton stringers can not get the string through as fast as this clumsy tennis stringer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stringtechno View Post
    I do not think that the major advantage of the tool is speed, it is convenience.
    It is better for your back, easier on your fingers and better for the string.

    The advantage is also that you can pull the string through very fast without friction.

    I do think that most badminton stringers can not get the string through as fast as this clumsy tennis stringer though.
    Sorry, I do not see the convenience here. You need to put on and take off the machine.
    What is killing stringer's back is the incorrect height of stringing machine. For most of people who string 1 or 2 racquets a week, I don't think back is an issue. For those who string more than 5 a week, they are advance enough that your aide slows down.
    Reg friction, that is why we tell stringer to move the string while pulling.

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    Hi guys,
    You will probably understand, that we hear the opinion of experienced stringers about the cross stringers very often.
    The argument is always that they are quicker without the tool so they do not need it.

    However, the problem for most of them is, that they cannot compare weaving experienced with the tool and without.

    BUT:
    * Anybody can see that the clumsy tennis stringer pushes the string through very fast and can also pull through as fast as he can without any friction.
    * The old tennis unit did not fit all racquets, and I really hated it when I had to string a racquet without the cross stringer.
    * The very experienced badminton stringer who tested the prototype during a month, gave it back so that we could make the video.
    He wrote me an email asking if he can get the proto back, until the production units are available, he misses the tool very much.
    * These are the opinions of very experienced stringers who use the tennis units.
    http://www.gutsandglorytennis.com/bl.../#comment-2148

    I think that these facts have more value than the opinions of stringers who can not compare.
    Last edited by stringtechno; 12-12-2012 at 01:00 AM.

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    The video can also been seen on Youtube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSIER...ature=youtu.be

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