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    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenPower View Post
    The 3rd set LD made so many errors, easy errors like hit it long, hit it outside. I see no desire in him to catch up, unlike when he played against Taufik...
    Let me wrap this up for you, it is a fixed match. Damn LYB

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    nobody play to lost..
    no point for LD to let CJ win
    CJ and LD are training partners...
    they knew each other well..
    no suprise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wong8Egg View Post
    Let me wrap this up for you, it is a fixed match. Damn LYB
    Sure it is........but i just feel pity for CJ..........he has qualitfied to Olympic 08 with LD help...not with his own hard work efforts....although he has the ability to do so........and in other ways.....he has to gave way in order to make sure his team wins titles.......and when he won a title............people tends to questioned about his win.........

    I think CJ also not feeling good about it either!......as a world class badminton player.......he wanted to play to win...even has to play againts team mates........to play to qualified....but not with team mates helps.........with 100% sportmanship..........but its reality.....he has to obey team decisions......its really hard for him.......just pity him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    Sure it is........but i just feel pity for CJ..........he has qualitfied to Olympic 08 with LD help...not with his own hard work efforts....although he has the ability to do so........and in other ways.....he has to gave way in order to make sure his team wins titles.......and when he won a title............people tends to questioned about his win.........

    I think CJ also not feeling good about it either!......as a world class badminton player.......he wanted to play to win...even has to play againts team mates........to play to qualified....but not with team mates helps.........with 100% sportmanship..........but its reality.....he has to obey team decisions......its really hard for him.......just pity him....
    I agree with you. I also think that Chen Jin is being used by LYB, he is always ordered when to lose and when to win and is always the underdog behind Lin Dan.
    This is definately a fixed match, Lin Dan was in such great form and was able to beat Lee Chong Wei in straight sets, but yet he lost to a player who happens to be in the same country. Coincidence? I think not

    This cannot be accepted, BWF must do something about this, it's ruining the image of the sport and is a bad influence. They should always put the people from the same country on one side of the draw to make it fair for the other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heong View Post
    I agree with you. I also think that Chen Jin is being used by LYB, he is always ordered when to lose and when to win and is always the underdog behind Lin Dan.
    This is definately a fixed match, Lin Dan was in such great form and was able to beat Lee Chong Wei in straight sets, but yet he lost to a player who happens to be in the same country. Coincidence? I think not

    This cannot be accepted, BWF must do something about this, it's ruining the image of the sport and is a bad influence. They should always put the people from the same country on one side of the draw to make it fair for the other countries.

    Fuzzy beat KKK/TBH who beat the MK/HS the OG champ and it is a boring match, so we can conclude .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wong8Egg View Post
    Fuzzy beat KKK/TBH who beat the MK/HS the OG champ and it is a boring match, so we can conclude .....
    ... that MK was injured and played so as not to disappoint the crowd. MK gets it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    Sure it is........but i just feel pity for CJ..........he has qualitfied to Olympic 08 with LD help...not with his own hard work efforts....although he has the ability to do so........and in other ways.....he has to gave way in order to make sure his team wins titles.......and when he won a title............people tends to questioned about his win.........

    I think CJ also not feeling good about it either!......as a world class badminton player.......he wanted to play to win...even has to play againts team mates........to play to qualified....but not with team mates helps.........with 100% sportmanship..........but its reality.....he has to obey team decisions......its really hard for him.......just pity him....

    Chen Jin's ranking prior to OG08 was among the top 5... if it wasn't because of the lame limitation rule, Chen Jin would have been in the OG without a doubt. How dare you say he didn't work for his qualification!!!

    If CJ didn't deserve to be in the OG this year, at least another 26 players should not been there either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heong View Post
    I agree with you. I also think that Chen Jin is being used by LYB, he is always ordered when to lose and when to win and is always the underdog behind Lin Dan.
    This is definately a fixed match, Lin Dan was in such great form and was able to beat Lee Chong Wei in straight sets, but yet he lost to a player who happens to be in the same country. Coincidence? I think not

    This cannot be accepted, BWF must do something about this, it's ruining the image of the sport and is a bad influence. They should always put the people from the same country on one side of the draw to make it fair for the other countries.
    If BWF is to do 1 thing that actually CAN improve the image of the sport...

    Instead of having short and skinny or chubby players(Fuzzy, Kido, LCW) leading the sport, we need players at least look like Lin Dan, Fu HaiFeng with decent height and muscular build... and prettier girls like Zhu Lin instead of Vita, Natsir, and the other tom boys from China. It's true even if it sounds harsh.. like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananakid View Post
    If BWF is to do 1 thing that actually CAN improve the image of the sport...

    Instead of having short and skinny or chubby players(Fuzzy, Kido, LCW) leading the sport, we need players at least look like Lin Dan, Fu HaiFeng with decent height and muscular build... and prettier girls like Zhu Lin instead of Vita, Natsir, and the other tom boys from China. It's true even if it sounds harsh.. like it or not.
    Zhu Lin, pretty? Hmmm.. questionable standards

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    At least the game between LD and CJ was a good show, 3 sets, and CJ put in a lot of hard work in the end to win.

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    LOLOLOL reading all this.
    Some of u doubters are really deep down hardcore LD fans. Your faith in LD to win every match, in every tournament, day in day out, is extremely noble and heart warming indeed..*sniff sniff*

    I also observed that some of u are new (noobs) to the art of making conspiracy theory. Let me educate u a bit. To have a believable conspiracy, there must be a motive. Nobody like to risk money or reputation to pre-arrange events for free or of no return. So, let ask why should LYB wanna fix this match? The 2012 OG is still some 3.5 years away, is LYB that keen of preparing LD and CJ for the 2012 OG already?? LOL Unless you have a credible motive for LYB to fix this match, I can generate a better conspiracy theory LOL. Hmmm.
    Since LD beat TH, Allah was displeased and with his supreme power, Allah disabled LD's 5th and 6th gears so CJ can take away LD's title. Allah wasn't done, allah also did it to XXF too. That's why LD and XXF look so sluggish in their final. At least, my doubt on LD's losing was is grounded on a motive based theory, unless of course, u can prove my theory is flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    he has qualitfied to Olympic 08 with LD help...not with his own hard work efforts....
    Lol, what a ridiculous arguement...

    CJ did not have hard work? Tell me this, even if LD gives you 10 matches, do you think you can get into OG? Oh wait, did I ask how u manage to get to semi or finals first?

    If you say CJ received help, then so do 90% of the OG paticipants. They received tons of help from CHN players like CH, CY, ZL, WL, WYH, ZTT, etc. All of such should play, instead of some ranking 70 or even 100 players. Same as for OG 04, XXF (WC runner up) and XXZ (WC champion for 2003) can only watch TV at home... So, I can tell that most of the participants recevied great help. Whether they are good enough or not, we all can tell. The most important is, they are NOT from the power houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananakid View Post
    Chen Jin's ranking prior to OG08 was among the top 5... if it wasn't because of the lame limitation rule, Chen Jin would have been in the OG without a doubt. How dare you say he didn't work for his qualification!!!

    If CJ didn't deserve to be in the OG this year, at least another 26 players should not been there either.
    But,.....for a country to send 3 players to Olympic.....it has to be in among top 4 in WR......at that time....Chn have LD ( 1st WR) and BCL ( 3rd WR) already....so a 5th. WR for CJ is not enough to ensure the 3 slot for Chn....so LD has to help him.....by losing to him in ABC....... its true.............accept it ..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    But,.....for a country to send 3 players to Olympic.....it has to be in among top 4 in WR......at that time....Chn have LD ( 1st WR) and BCL ( 3rd WR) already....so a 5th. WR for CJ is not enough to ensure the 3 slot for Chn....so LD has to help him.....by losing to him in ABC....... its true.............accept it ..........
    Regardless which nation s/he represents, the athletes need to train very hard for years to perform on the big stage. Just because CJ is from CHN, he should be purnished, and blamed for "not his own hardwork" when he was only 5th in the world.

    Great, so, for the players who are 70th in rank, they are the hero of the world. For CHN team, if you are the 3rd or 4th best (ask Chen Yu, he will tell you how he thinks about OG rules), you are labeled as "not working hard enough"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    WR for CJ is not enough to ensure the 3 slot for Chn....so LD has to help him.....by losing to him in ABC....... its true.............accept it ..........
    WR for most of the OG participants means they are suppose to be "not good enough"... so they cast a rule to let the powerhouses (especially CHN for recent years) to help them.... by simply block the better players to even enter the event.... it's true ... .... you have to suck it, enjoy it, and making fun of it..... then, blame CJ and who ever, say, "too bad lah, only 5th... not good... ooopps, I am only 70th, but i carry another flag lah..."

    If you say the rule is the rule, and you have to suck it. Then, I tell you whether there's "help" from teammates or not, you have to suck it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    But,.....for a country to send 3 players to Olympic.....it has to be in among top 4 in WR......at that time....Chn have LD ( 1st WR) and BCL ( 3rd WR) already....so a 5th. WR for CJ is not enough to ensure the 3 slot for Chn....so LD has to help him.....by losing to him in ABC....... its true.............accept it ..........
    LHI beat BCL ( WR #3) in the OG, and had beaten LD several times before , and yet CJ beat LHI in the OG. So CJ's bronze medal was a fluke?

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    Well, the fans of LD can't compare to fans of Taufik or LCW - We accept the fact LD is not a God and can be defeated .


    In the final match, the performance of LD is really questionable compare to the match of Taufik. However, if this match is a fix, I can't see the motive for LD to lose, something like boost CJ's confidence (?) is kind hard to believe. CJ, on the other hand, played really hard.
    Never mind about the match result, it's China vs China anyway. LD doesn’t need to prove himself any more, and CJ still has a long way to go.


    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    LOLOLOL reading all this.
    Some of u doubters are really deep down hardcore LD fans. Your faith in LD to win every match, in every tournament, day in day out, is extremely noble and heart warming indeed..*sniff sniff*

    I also observed that some of u are new (noobs) to the art of making conspiracy theory. Let me educate u a bit. To have a believable conspiracy, there must be a motive. Nobody like to risk money or reputation to pre-arrange events for free or of no return. So, let ask why should LYB wanna fix this match? The 2012 OG is still some 3.5 years away, is LYB that keen of preparing LD and CJ for the 2012 OG already?? LOL Unless you have a credible motive for LYB to fix this match, I can generate a better conspiracy theory LOL. Hmmm.
    Since LD beat TH, Allah was displeased and with his supreme power, Allah disabled LD's 5th and 6th gears so CJ can take away LD's title. Allah wasn't done, allah also did it to XXF too. That's why LD and XXF look so sluggish in their final. At least, my doubt on LD's losing was is grounded on a motive based theory, unless of course, u can prove my theory is flawed.

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