Good Forehand Clears & Jump Smashes

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  1. Maxphi5

    Maxphi5 Regular Member

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    All my shots (smash, drop, net, etc) are good. I can do a Baseline to Baseline clear, but the bird doesn't seem to go high enough:crying:

    I was wondering if it is my point of contact? Sometimes i hit it alittle too low... But i can fix that. Even sometimes if i hit it over my head it still wont go high enough!

    What am i doing wrong?
     
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    If I were you, I'd worry less about when I'm hitting it.
    I'd worry more about how my racquet's face is angled.

    Tip it up a bit and you will get a higher clear :)
     
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    Make sure you're hitting it when the shuttle is in front of your body.
    Make sure you hit it at the highest point of possible contact
    Make sure you are hitting it squarely on the string bed and not slicing it.
    Practice.
     
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    Ok thanks! :crying: One more thing to worry about... I'll practice my racket angles later.

    Ok thanks, but i'm never slicing the birdie... I think i have to hit it alittle more infront of me.:eek:

    Thanks guys!
     
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    No, that will produce exactly the opposite effect! ;)

    When the contact point is in front of you, it's natural to hit the shuttle downwards (a smash or fast drop).

    When the contact point is directly above you or slightly behind, it's natural to hit the shuttle upwards (a high clear).

    It's possible to switch these around -- for example, playing smashes with a contact point behind you -- but that requires more precise technique.
     
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    Oh yeah i forgot about that >_< I always seem to be hitting it downwards because i'm hitting from in front of me :eek:

    Btw, I've done a smash behind me....... Once:p

    Thanks for the info!
     
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    can i execute an offensive punch in this instance?

    if the contact point is behind, wont there be a loss of balance/power?
     
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    What clear are you trying to do? Offenseive or defensive?
     
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    Er... Both?
    I just need a good technique to get my clears higher.
     
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    I would think so O__o
    But he said just slightly... You might lose some balance though... Maybe not power not sure... Yeah you might lose some power too...
     
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    You need make the contact point higher when you hit. As for the clear, depending on the situation, you will either use a offensive or defensive clear.

    The offensive one being lower in height compared to the defensive clear such that they have less time to get the back.
     
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    Ok so then i always seem to be doing the offensive clear. Must practice my defensive clears now.

    I have a question about my jump smash now... My normal smash (feet on ground) is pretty good right now. I just need to now around when should i jump to get a good jump smash? Sometimes i get lucky and jump at the right time, i just need an approx. for the jump time. I'm around 5'4.
     
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    Make sure your offensive clear is high enough that the opponent cannot cut it off. Also, keep in mind that not do an offensive clear if the opponent is expecting it, otherwise you would end up on the defense as they would be on the offense (ie. smash).

    This would be more of a player preference and style of about when to jump. You might start off by someone just clear birds to you and keep jumping until you find out a pre-determined height you can reach at the jump to try.

    When you say lucky, does this assume that you are in position? If so, you would need to practice it such that you are able to get it even when you are out of position.
     
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    If you want to do a high defensive clear.. and if you can do offensive clears full-court, just aim higher.

    This would all be a matter of practise. Almost nobody gets the timing right the first time.
     
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    Ok thanks for the tips. Sometimes I'm out of position, I'll jump and sometimes (to rarely) I'll hit a good jump smash. Now i gotta get my timing right >_<

    Mod: Can you please change the thread name to: " Good Forehand Clears and Jump Smashes....HELP!!!!

    Thanks,
     
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    I recommend you to watch professional players play on youtube to let yourself get used to their timing of the jump-smashes a little more.. or you can also watch top-level national players play and learn from them too. Watching helps quite a bit.

    Jump-smashing comes rather naturally for some people if they have the confidence to do it! If you have as much confidence as Lin Dan, nothing should come in your way.. nothing is impossible haha.
     
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    LOL yeah, I do have the confidence though! I KNOW I can do it!! MUST GET IT IN MY MIND >_< I CAN DO IT!!! haha XD
    Yeah I think I'll go on Youtube now! Gotta go watch Lin Dan and Taufik Hidayat.
    That was alittle off topic but back now:
    Yeah but Jump smashing isn't natural to me YET, I just need to get the correct timing. I can jump up around 1'3 feet my arm length is 2'10 feet and my racket is also 2'10 feet. When should i jump? When its a few inches from the "point of contact"?? Cause i usually know where that point is... But getting the right timing on the jump is really hurting me >_<
     
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    The best is to try out different timings until you get it right.. then practise it so that your consistency will improve.
     
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    Ok thanks. I'll go and get the timing right as soon as possible. How long does it take to get it consistant? I hear some people take months to years T.T
     
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    It depends on how much you practice. For me, it took about a week before or so before I figured it out, and that is practicing up to 3 times a week.
     

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