New Vision 20th Dec 2008 (Saturday) 10AM-1PM Beginner - Average

[cyk80]

Hey sorry was busy didn't have time to post anything. I will go book tomorrow on the 17/12/08 (wed). From what i know its FREE, all this while i don't have to pay anything. But my friend said recently have to pay small fee $2 per hour or something but i will confirm again tomorrow night.

It is an indoor court with 2 courts
I will try to book both the courts from 10 am - 1 pm.
Once confirmed i will give you the full address of the condo.

Thanks

[tucked]

hmmm cant believe badminton's quite a sociable game.
Beside players trying to smack each others in the face;
Some expert buaya out there trying to get you;
(Hope no paedophiles, i m still young)
Going to new places;
The last time thing i did was bboying and everyone was just
waiting to kill you to win any competitions & no place to train.
Cant wait for Saturday.

[jk1980]

Latest update from cyk80. He can only manage to book one court and can only bring in 6 persons max. That's the condo rule...

I guess we'll have to stick to New Vision if that's the case.
So it's New Vision 10AM-1PM Saturday 17th Dec 2008.
I'll book 2 courts tonight.

I think should be ok if nobody ffk last minute :P

[Dolphin]

OK dudes have fun. at least at NVBA you get to watch some state juniors (?) train whilst you wait for your turn on court. i'll join you all the next time round.

[mizivincible]

Latest update from cyk80. He can only manage to book one court and can only bring in 6 persons max. That's the condo rule...

I guess we'll have to stick to New Vision if that's the case.
So it's New Vision 10AM-1PM Saturday 17th Dec 2008.
I'll book 2 courts tonight.

I think should be ok if nobody ffk last minute :P

I see, its ok then.Anywhere is fine with me. Yesterday night had a Table Tennis session, and I dont think my arm is fully recover, still pain when stroking. Hopefully it'll be better by this Saturday, Im trying out my new head heavy racket (no money to buy Yonex lorr). Owh yeah, JK, you can put another name, the malay guy that followed me last Saturday at NV, Fudhail (pronounce - Fu-Deil)

[findecano1]

I see, its ok then.Anywhere is fine with me. Yesterday night had a Table Tennis session, and I dont think my arm is fully recover, still pain when stroking. Hopefully it'll be better by this Saturday, Im trying out my new head heavy racket (no money to buy Yonex lorr). Owh yeah, JK, you can put another name, the malay guy that followed me last Saturday at NV, Fudhail (pronounce - Fu-Deil)

Your new Vision Hollow 1800 from Owen?

[mizivincible]

Your new Vision Hollow 1800 from Owen?

How dare u bocor my rahsia ! Ok, lunch treat at KFC from findecano this upcoming session !

Anyway it is, my ProAce Widebody 33 is wayyyyy too light,while my Yonex Cab20 SP is designed for supremely balance so lack of power. Trying out 1st. Owh, its actually Visible Hollow 1800.

[findecano1]

How dare u bocor my rahsia ! Ok, lunch treat at KFC from findecano this upcoming session !

Anyway it is, my ProAce Widebody 33 is wayyyyy too light,while my Yonex Cab20 SP is designed for supremely balance so lack of power. Trying out 1st. Owh, its actually Visible Hollow 1800.

Wuakaka....Vision ..Visible...duhh got blurry eyes looking at the screen whole day... Well can't wait till Sat to meet you guys up! Gonna see some new toys eh??

[Oldhand]

Here too, the year in your thread's title was '2007'.
It's been changed to '2008'

[tucked]

Sorry guys, i was about to reply to the issue on Mont kiara when my office server down..

to CYK80 simple :
if 1 unit can only rent 1 court, then just get the leng lui next door to book one more court.. then invite her to play and we can then invite 12 ppl.. problem solved! And i get to know 1 more girl. How are we going to share 1 court in NV?

to Mizivincible :
I am using ProAce widebody 55. it is indeed light but i never knew light could be a problem. Maybe that's why i m playing porly. Kindly explain..
Will i lose more impact on the shuttle?.. If it's a matter of changing kinetic energy from the racquet to the shuttle,
then Work=0.5(mass)(velocity)^2 hence we need to increase velocity to substitute for the lack of mass??? That means, jk1980's heavier arm is more powerful than me for the same velocity! hahahahah.

[mizivincible]

Sorry guys, i was about to reply to the issue on Mont kiara when my office server down..

to CYK80 simple :
if 1 unit can only rent 1 court, then just get the leng lui next door to book one more court.. then invite her to play and we can then invite 12 ppl.. problem solved! And i get to know 1 more girl. How are we going to share 1 court in NV?

to Mizivincible :
I am using ProAce widebody 55. it is indeed light but i never knew light could be a problem. Maybe that's why i m playing porly. Kindly explain..
Will i lose more impact on the shuttle?.. If it's a matter of changing kinetic energy from the racquet to the shuttle,
then Work=0.5(mass)(velocity)^2 hence we need to increase velocity to substitute for the lack of mass??? That means, jk1980's heavier arm is more powerful than me for the same velocity! hahahahah.

You detailed explanation says it all. Im taking engineering course yet I have hard time explaining to that extend level

But,its true indeed, this is usually apply to hard smashing. Well, of course if you have weak wrist, you cant blame on the lightweight racket not giving you enough power on the smashes. A racket is a medium to transfer your energy to the shuttle hence I need to increase the velocity (smashing harder) for lightweight racket. Now I wonder why jk1980 smashes are that hard, directly penetrating our defense,shuttlecock cutting through the air with blazing speed - its all combination of heavy arm and his Yonex TI-10

[tucked]

har har har.. yes indeed.
Not yet sleep?

jk1980 is indeed strong. He once nearly squeezed a man to death on his bare one hand. Luckily for us, the only protection we've got is the badminton court net!!!

[eddychan]

to Mizivincible :
I am using ProAce widebody 55. it is indeed light but i never knew light could be a problem. Maybe that's why i m playing porly. Kindly explain..
Will i lose more impact on the shuttle?.. If it's a matter of changing kinetic energy from the racquet to the shuttle,
then Work=0.5(mass)(velocity)^2 hence we need to increase velocity to substitute for the lack of mass??? That means, jk1980's heavier arm is more powerful than me for the same velocity! hahahahah.

I almost flunked physics in school, but this I remember:

m1v1=m2v2

m1=mass of racket+player
v1=velocity of racket head
m2=mass of shuttle
v2=velocity of shuttle

theoretically, a lighter racket would need increased velocity of the racket head to make a strong smash
theoretically, a 100kg player would deliver a stronger smash than a 60kg player???

[tucked]

ok let's try the momentum equation :
1 for racket, 2 for shuttle
R=racket S=shuttle
U=velocity before impact V=velocity after impact, so we need V2 to be big for smash.

R1U1 + S2U2 = R1V1 + S2V2, since shuttle coming from opposite direction
R1U1 - S2U2 = R1V1 + S2V2, move the R1 to left side & factor
R1(U1 - V1) = S2(V2 + U2), then we aim for increasing V2
(R1/S2)(U1-V1) = V2 + U2, then rearrange for V2
V2 = (R1/S2)(U1-V1) - U2, hence we conclude that :

1. R1 = racket mass need to be high
2. S2 = shuttle mass need to be low (impossible to manipulate)
3. U1 = racket velocity need to be high
4. V1 = incoming shuttle is lower speed give faster smash result
5. Finally U2 racket after collision will be slower.. (impossible to manipulate)

For that we see that the mass impact is as much as the velocity impact
and not like the kinetic equation where velocity is squared.

Which equation is correct???

[jk1980]

Guys, bad news...for me at least. Sprained my ankle from yesterdays game. I may not be able to make it this Saturday. From the feel of it...seems bad. May need a couple of days to recover.

We'll see ok. I'll try tit tah chau everyday to see if it helps.

[DaveC]

I am using ProAce widebody 55. it is indeed light but i never knew light could be a problem. Maybe that's why i m playing porly. Kindly explain..
Will i lose more impact on the shuttle?..

wahh... you still have a Proace widebody 55 ? The racket is not really that light and it have good smashing and whiping power with very good control and feel. I have worn out and break over 10 pcs of this model. It's already 20++ over years in the market and is one of the best racket of it's time (besides Yonex). This racket came back into production atleast 5 times due to poupular demand.
Yang Yang (World champ & All England champ at that time), was using this racket wile playing against Morton Frost to win the titles. Yonex was his sponser but for some reason he opt to use this racket over the Yonex's racket.
I would would be more than willing to trade for it with any of my acepac rackets that i am currently using.
regards

[mcnair]

Hello friends

I'm interesting in joining your badminton group.

My skill is average only but have passion to improve on it.

I'm 27 yrs old Indian guy. Appreciate if I can join you guys.