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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..from Canada??the Canada trio??..Wong8Egg??....him??..naaah...

    madbad : i think cooler is still upset over Taufik's apparent balk at snubbing the Toronto folks & not coming to Toronto to do his exhibition. right, cooler??..
    i'm not a "toronto folk" but i'm still steamed he's not comming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athelete1234 View Post
    Well lemme rephrase a bit...as members of BC here, are we bashing TH, or being LD fanboys??
    neither, all i read from the article is TH is bashing LD. So, is writing anything about TH that isn't sweet smelling and praising TH is bashing?
    I believe the media had only highlight 10-20% of TH characters. I'm sure people closer to TH or in the INA badminton loop would know the other 80-90% of TH that aren't published
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    Taufik has all his rights to call LD this or that. It's just his personality. I am not surprised.

    LD's job is to win and to take the medal, same as LYB.
    Their job is not to win "Mr. popularity". And even Mr. Popularity can not be liked by every single one in the world.

    MJ, Kobe, LBJ, KG, etc all got flagant fouls sometimes, they can be suspended, and all of them got into shoving matches or even fight during their careers. Do you want to focus on their "mis-behaving" moments, or do you want to focus on their overall achivement as a pro athlete? It's your judgement.

    Whether Taufik (or anyone) thinks LD is just a bad actor, or a true champion, it's not that important. The W-L record and the performance on the court will be the determine factor for him as a champion, but not the popularity vote from internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    neither, all i read from the article is TH is bashing LD. So, is writing anything about TH that isn't sweet smelling and praising TH is bashing?
    I believe the media had only highlight 10-20% of TH characters. I'm sure people closer to TH or in the INA badminton loop would know the other 80-90% of TH that aren't published
    Same thing goes to China team..I believe that media only reported 10% to 20% of real charater of China Team...I am sure that people closer to China team players would know that 80% or 90% of CBA or China players are not published......wait until LD is aged 28 and see what he can do...

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    The diffrent between players from INA/DEN and China....INA players can voice their opinions and China players are not allowed to say ..just anything....

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    The diffrent between players from INA/DEN and China....INA players can voice their opinions and China players are not allowed to say ..just anything....
    Maybe save more time for training the skill rather than training for mouth can produce better players? Big mouth might produce a "hot dog eating" champion, but usually not badminton champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    The diffrent between players from INA/DEN and China....INA players can voice their opinions and China players are not allowed to say ..just anything....
    i have heard LD and other chinese players saying positive things about TH and Kido/setiwan. I don't think china team made them to say those nice things nor had asked them not to say negative things to others. LYB had admit match fixing in several occasions. When TH called LD as arrogant back in 2006, XXF spoke back for LD to the media. All these few examples doesn't indicate chinese players are being muffled to the media.
    If TH feels so concern about match fixing, he should join 'The Badminton Players Federation (BPF)'.

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    Default Are you sure only a big mouth will do??..

    Quote Originally Posted by LazyBuddy View Post
    ... Big mouth might produce a "hot dog eating" champion, but usually not badminton champion.
    ..the last time i check, that Japanese "Hot Dog Eating Champ", Takeru Kobayashi from Japan, has not only a pretty wide mouth but a pretty long and flexible intestine and tummy...I mean, don't you think one must have a large storage space to store all those buns and processed meats??..
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    As usually Chinese fans are big mouth too ( on denial all the time..thats why they move to Canada and US..to voice their concerns.....haha...well..come to tournaments to know your chinese players.....there is no points how to talk/argue as both of u..do not know anything abt China team ...INA has produced many championships and Olympics..we do not need BIG MOUTH or know just to talk.....Chinese fans could not admitted that LD did give victories to CJ....thats so double standard....

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    OK, hauge and cooler must meet in the middle... in Vancouver. They then go head to head on the court and beat the daylights out of each other. After that we can all go for sushi and beer. How does that sound?
    He has no guts to meet me when I was in Calgary.... he and Lazybuddy...just know how to open their big mouth abt INA players all the time...whining and crying how the world unfairly treat chinese team, in OG as the chinese had many benefits as the host..,,blah blah....I challenge them to post the news about China players also...NADA..always negative on other players.....so double standard....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    i have heard LD and other chinese players saying positive things about TH and Kido/setiwan. I don't think china team made them to say those nice things nor had asked them not to say negative things to others. LYB had admit match fixing in several occasions. When TH called LD as arrogant back in 2006, XXF spoke back for LD to the media. All these few examples doesn't indicate chinese players are being muffled to the media.
    If TH feels so concern about match fixing, he should join 'The Badminton Players Federation (BPF)'.
    Come to tournament.....dont sit with your ass behind computer desk..no point....meet your chinese players to get to know them...if you believe what you read in news then you should believe then what Chinese reporters say about LD punched JXP...if you give benefits of doubt abt that story then you should do same thing on other news....
    China did match fixings..thats the fact...( I did not day it is wrong)....

    If you are brave enough..then come to Vancouver or Calgary to meet me in April....dont be so coward....!! you are not in China...you can say anything you want to me.....I remember that CH told me that he wont be allowed to play CJ in Macau ..you called me that I bad mouth CJ...well...that news came from chinese player.....thats so laughable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Come to tournament.....dont sit with your ass behind computer desk..no point....meet your chinese players to get to know them...if you believe what you read in news then you should believe then what Chinese reporters say about LD punched JXP...if you give benefits of doubt abt that story then you should do same thing on other news....
    China did match fixings..thats the fact...( I did not day it is wrong)....

    If you are brave enough..then come to Vancouver or Calgary to meet me in April....dont be so coward....!! you are not in China...you can say anything you want to me.....I remember that CH told me that he wont be allowed to play CJ in Macau ..you called me that I bad mouth CJ...well...that news came from chinese player.....thats so laughable...
    Oh, you will be in vancouver? I wouldn't mind meeting you... Over food and not badminton though haha....

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    As usually Chinese fans are big mouth too ( on denial all the time..thats why they move to Canada and US..to voice their concerns.....haha...well..come to tournaments to know your chinese players.....there is no points how to talk/argue as both of u..do not know anything abt China team ...INA has produced many championships and Olympics..we do not need BIG MOUTH or know just to talk.....Chinese fans could not admitted that LD did give victories to CJ....thats so double standard....
    which chinese fan didn't see the victory favored to CJ at the 08 AE MSF???? It is quite inflammatory of u to accuse all chinese fans in this regard.

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    Okay, when is the tournament in Calgary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Come to tournament.....dont sit with your ass behind computer desk..no point....meet your chinese players to get to know them...if you believe what you read in news then you should believe then what Chinese reporters say about LD punched JXP...if you give benefits of doubt abt that story then you should do same thing on other news....
    China did match fixings..thats the fact...( I did not day it is wrong)....

    If you are brave enough..then come to Vancouver or Calgary to meet me in April....dont be so coward....!! you are not in China...you can say anything you want to me.....I remember that CH told me that he wont be allowed to play CJ in Macau ..you called me that I bad mouth CJ...well...that news came from chinese player.....thats so laughable...
    *cough* I'm not young and carefree to be a groupie anymore. Since it seem u have lots of free time to travel, then good for u but don't brag about it thinking it's the best thing in life. Excuse me if I place more importance on other things in life.

    Regarding believing in news, not all news quality can be compared equally as 100% believeable. When journalists quoted words from TH's mouth, the content is highly believable. When photos showing TH making clown gesture to umpire and line judges, and walking out. those are reliable proofs. However, when reporter says seeing LD hit JXP: (1), those are words from a second hand source (2) No photos for proofs (3) Even if i assumed the alleged reporting is corrrect, hitting someone is a very loose and vague term. Heated argument usually involve hand waving, can two waving hands come in contact inadvertantly considered hitting someone?? I'm sure maybe some hand contacts were made but the intention and how it is contacted is not known. Until we have better description of the incident, any interpretation beyond this reporting, is just speculation. Who's at fault or both, we don't know. Since u said u have a great rapport with the chinese players, why don't u help us to clarify all this up?

    i might be forgetful after 17,000+ posts, can u show me the post where i have make comment about CH vs CJ for the Macau Open?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete LSD View Post
    Okay, when is the tournament in Calgary?
    forget calgary, we r ashame to say we don't have real badminton courts in calgary (except for the 2 private clubs). Also, calgary is a plastic shuttle country, if Hauge want to play plastic, he is handicapped by cooler from the start:

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    He has no guts to meet me when I was in Calgary.... he and Lazybuddy...just know how to open their big mouth abt INA players all the time...whining and crying how the world unfairly treat chinese team, in OG as the chinese had many benefits as the host..,,blah blah....I challenge them to post the news about China players also...NADA..always negative on other players.....so double standard....

    First, no personal attack here. If you want to keep the thread open, and to be at least a bit in healthy discussion trent, please drop all the personal issues. Show some respect to others, means showing respect to yourself.

    Sure, you can say I open my mouth about this and that, but let me ask you, who created most of the threads, me or any so-call "CHN fans"? Mostly, it's not the ones you named. Mostly, it's the so call "non CHN fans" started to flaming around, when CHN team got some achivement, while their own hero fell. Let me ask you, you make the rules, or the umpires? If the umpires, judges agree that LD won, then you think by crying here to picking dirt can make yourself a hero?

    Let me ask you, how many times you read I named Susi and WCH to be my favorite players? Non of them CHN. Actually there was a debate about Soni, I was one of the 1st ones came out to support Soni side. On the other hand, I clearly made my voice in GL's thread (even though she's the favorite among many fans), I do not like her behavior during a particular tournament. So, from where you found that I am "always negative on other players"?

    Sure, if you call kicking out the WC champion and runner up as an OG benefit, I really have nothing to say any more.

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