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Thread: Malaysian Juniors 2009
11-07-2009, 07:33 AM #324
The above are our girls who participated in the WJC recently in AS. If I left out anyone, please shout.
Now, thank you for your reply. But lets not put everything on BAM's shoulders. These girls got to pull their own weight too. BAM can provide them the coaching, the support, the exposure and guidance BUT these girls got to have it in them that they themselves want to achieve success too. To make it at the senior level and be successful (by successful, I mean competing well and winning some SS titles along the way), these girls need to be disciplined, determined & have the talent as well, coupled with BAM's support/coaching etc.
As such, I am sorry I dont agree with your whether these girls make or break depends solely on BAM. To me thats a cop out.
Lets see when the above mentioned girls reached the age of 24 -27 whether they make the grade or not. It will be interesting.
The same goes for Ramdan too. Lets see how he fare as a shuttler when he is around 25. I hope the lad and the above mentioned girls will still be around, not fade away into obscurity.
11-07-2009, 07:42 AM #325
Of course talent is important as in the case of Lee Yong Dae but without a proper system... talent is also wasted.
I did not said that all these girls can make it but i did mentioned there are some real good one there. Some of those i mentioned will still play for the next two years.
11-07-2009, 07:48 AM #326
I be honest here...
I dont need to go to a stadium to watch our girls play live to judge whether they have talent or not. I can do that on the telly. From what I have seen, our girls are just average. The majority of them will fade away in a few years time. Those who remained will be lambs for slaughter in any competition we sent them.
I dont see any of them have the potential to make it to a SS semi final in the future. And should any of the girls mentioned make it to a SS semi final, I will personally buy you a badminton racquet of your choice and have it delivered right to your doorstep.
11-07-2009, 07:51 AM #327
11-07-2009, 07:53 AM #328
Our girls, some real good ones?? Maybe you need to up the standard higher. We are talking about competing against the world, not against shuttlers from Kuala Pilah, Besut, Tangkak or Batu Road.
Ok dude, I gotta go and watch Kelantan vs NS on tv.
11-07-2009, 08:01 AM #329
Hmmm, isnt Yew KH a guy, our BD player? The confusion is on Yew's age, whether he can still play in WJC/AJC/OG Youth Games next year.
btw, gemini12, you have any idea what has happened to Chooi's AJC partner Yeoh Choong Yee? Is Yeoh injured or gone further studies? In WJC & in the recent Terengganu Open, he did not participate.
Same goes for Tan Wee Tat's AJC partner : Lau Win Hwi. Is Lau a younger junior? oh, Lau now partner Goh Sze Onn.
11-07-2009, 08:06 AM #330
11-07-2009, 11:44 AM #331
If one had followed the 2009 AJC or just look at the Tourney software, one would know that Ow YH/Yew KH are AJC runner-up in BD, losing to Indonesia's Angga/Rendy in finals. And Ow/Yew had been partners for a long time bf Yap KH paired Ow with Chooi for WJC.
For 2009 WJC, Yew played XD only, with Ong Boon Hui.
Last edited by eaglehelang; 11-07-2009 at 11:54 AM.
11-07-2009, 08:00 PM #332
Lets go a little deeper ...
Our current juniors have so-so talent (which I think is only good at advanced state level but not senior international). Determination wise, our juniors are neither here nor there. Discipline wise, I think busy sending sms-es, playing with handphones etc or being in t-shirt while on the bench kinda put the discipline thingy up in smoke.
Ok, now look at the system, our system.
Our facilities i.e. training centres/equipment are all 1st class. We engaged the best coaches out there. The government support and funding to the game is second to none. Why is it that despite all these, we are still churning out average run of the mill shuttlers?
11-07-2009, 08:12 PM #333
There must be a typo in the BWF list which indeed stated Yew HK as a female player, when in fact, he's male. He was registered to play in XD with Ong Boon Hui.
Also, Yew HK has been playing BD & MD in several tourneys this year:
1. Malaysia SS, Thailand International Series, Malaysia GP Gold, AJC - with Ow Yao Han.
2. Vietnam GP - with Tan Wee Tat
11-07-2009, 08:53 PM #334
In the BWF list of players for the WJC Team Event, Yew Hong Kheng was listed as a female player, when in fact, most of us following the AJC and WJC know for sure that Yew is a male player! I hope this will end the misunderstanding.
11-07-2009, 10:31 PM #335
Limsy, at the rate you post, we recognize you as a senior in BC
Limsy, everyone is looking at your post counts, than what you are posting...hahaha!!!
That's a major achievement...average 24.17 posts and 17.23 posts per day respectively...Malaysia Boleh!!!
11-08-2009, 12:36 AM #336
11-08-2009, 02:34 AM #337
I saw the excel file that lists the players, Yew is listed in XD, Ong Boon Hui for sure is female, as Ong also plays WD,cant have 2 female play XD or 1 male, 1 female play WD.
Anyway, there's only one Msian junior with surname Yew. Ow/Yew been partners long before AJC, those who been following this thread or juniors results will for sure know.
11-08-2009, 03:04 AM #338
Oops, that means Pang is already 18 since Chooi and Pang already participate 2 WJC.
Then that case....next year Goh most probably partner Tan Wee Tat as 2nd BD, unless got some better juniors.
BD list settle, GD : In 2010, Lai Pei Jing & Shevon should still be eligible.
Hui Ern should be moving up to back up to join Hui Lin.
haha, I hope they wouldnt ask Sonia & Yang Li LIan play GD
11-08-2009, 03:21 AM #339
and even rexy has quote this many many times b4...
This is becoz i have something in mind mind after discussion with a ex-MAS coach who came over M'sia recently in WJC...
The main prob comes with the players and parents, not the body... although the body should have come out with a better solution...
y said so? the coach actually move away coz he felt not happy, no satisfaction while coaching MAS team...
He cant implement the method to the players, coz the parents plays a role to complain whenever something happen to their children
What i shall emphasize here is, the MAS players are actually being too pampered... until they forgot how important to strive for success...
11-08-2009, 07:47 AM #340
I would like to say dont listen to one side of the story.
I believe the coach u spoke about left because of his wrong doing and it got nothing to do with the players, coaches and parents.
No parents are ever allowed to interfere with BAM programme or selection.
Hv u ever thought that good coaches never spoke abt their players,organisation or parents to the public. They even avoid parents let alone public.
Last edited by gemini12; 11-08-2009 at 07:58 AM.
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