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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Thank you for pointing, kirana.

    But forget it. S/he already stated that "I don't put much care on the title names. I care for the head-to-head stats among the top-rankers to get a sense of who's the real best."

    Which gives me some new light: MK/HS' OG gold is meaningless (i.e. not that strong mah) since their H-2-H stats against the newly crowned WR No. 1 are rather disappointing anyway.
    And when we go to Narnia's road of comparing head-to-head stats among the top pairs, we're stuck in an infinite loop, since pair 1 >> pair 2 >> pair 3 >> pair 1..........Error 404: Domination not found!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    The PROBLEM is you are too arrogant painting your pairs like SUPER power pair..just be humble....it is okay they are number 1 but dont look down on other pairs as LYD/JJS is not even WC or Olympic Champion yet...your pairalways stumbled in BIG EVENTS...proving they are mentally WEAK.( just admitted)...we are fans of MK/HS but we never parade them as the best of the best....just dont like the way or your language....they are still far to go....trust me!!...just be HUMBLE!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by X Ball
    LCW must be toying with his opponents these days to sharpen up for the ALL-ENGLAND. He likes to take it easy and go for the 3 sets. He is showing how confident he is by going 3 sets.

    It looks like LCW does not know how to lose these days.
    Nobody ever read anything by Mr. Justice here teaching the exact same thing to X Ball ever(with dozens more examples simliar to the above)...

    yet, Narnia takes all the blows because of all the praises s/he gives to the korean pairs while somewhat leaving out Ina and Mal players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bananakid View Post

    yet, Narnia takes all the blows because of all the praises s/he gives to the korean pairs while somewhat leaving out Ina and Mal players.
    You haven't gotten a clue do you? Did you even bother to read previous post???
    "Narnia takes all the blows" as you put it, not because of leaving out INA and MAS players....but rather by declaring LYD/JJS has conquered and dominate <fill in the blanks> ... and the method used to support/justify it.

    Clear enough for you?

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    It'd help enormously if all of us were to go across to how Jung Jae-Sung and Lee Yong-Dae are doing professionally.

    If you folks want to continue your personal tirades, use some secure means of private communication. This simply isn't the place for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    It'd help enormously if all of us were to go across to how Jung Jae-Sung and Lee Yong-Dae are doing professionally.

    If you folks want to continue your personal tirades, use some secure means of private communication. This simply isn't the place for it
    As stated before, some of us (me included) are questioning narnia's "domination" and "conquering" statement while depicting LYD/JJS, and the supporting argument for it. For some reason, a small minority here seemed unable the see the point of contention...and equate us to critizing LYD/JJS alltogether. Off topics post dully noted though.
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    Debate?
    The recent posts are anything but!

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    I have heard some people here get money by posting... Who are they? And is it the reason some guys are talking much, esp. of off topic?

    Fellas, I don't want to be involved in the fighting here as we are all here for the joy of badminton. As I said in the other posts, I also like Kido/Hendra, Koo/Tan, and many other top-players. What I'm saying about "dominance" is all MY personal opinion. Why are you so upset? I have my own standard or definition for the "dominance". YOU can have your own standard. I said my standard or definition for the "dominance" and you can think differently. That's it. I didn't say MK/HS is a bad team, rather I said they lost to LYD/JJS in all the matches since 2008. The dominance goes just "temporary" as I said my definition comes with just recent matches within around 1.5 year. (The current BWF ranking also only counts the matches within 1 year.)

    That's my personal view. Your view can be different. You don't need to be offended by my view. Just tell your standard and view and I care stats.

    And please please don't forget:

    I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE HEAD-2-HEAD STATS AMONG THE TOP-PLAYERS TO DETERMINE WHO'S THE BEST NOW. (NOT HOW MANY or WHICH TITLES THEY HAD.)

    (Just think that the top-rankers all play one another by All Round Robin. Then, who will get the MOST WINS? That's my definition of dominance in modern badminton scoring system.)



    Have a fun in your club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narnia View Post
    I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE HEAD-2-HEAD STATS AMONG THE TOP-PLAYERS TO DETERMINE WHO'S THE BEST NOW. (NOT HOW MANY or WHICH TITLES THEY HAD.)
    We get it...really...we get it.....so, its like saying:
    Andy Murray vs Roger Federer is like 4-1 in the past 1 year.....so Andy Murray is the best right now...when in fact Roger Federer had won all the major slams except for the French Open while Andy Murray has yet to win any major slams up to now.

    or...to be closer to badminton:
    Kido/Hendra vs Koo/Tan 2-6 or 2-7 at the moment....so...that makes Koo/Tan the best in the world eh...when in fact there are so many here being so critical abt them? I am sure Koo/Tan's fans will be excited abt that

    It's okay really for INA players to be "dominated" by others...as long as they are the ones who win the major titles and beat the bogey pairs when it matters most (like during the Olympics QF match) I am sure most INA fans will agree to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    We get it...really...we get it.....so, its like saying:
    Andy Murray vs Roger Federer is like 4-1 in the past 1 year.....so Andy Murray is the best right now...when in fact Roger Federer had won all the major slams except for the French Open while Andy Murray has yet to win any major slams up to now.

    or...to be closer to badminton:
    Kido/Hendra vs Koo/Tan 2-6 or 2-7 at the moment....so...that makes Koo/Tan the best in the world eh...when in fact there are so many here being so critical abt them? I am sure Koo/Tan's fans will be excited abt that

    It's okay really for INA players to be "dominated" by others...as long as they are the ones who win the major titles and beat the bogey pairs when it matters most (like during the Olympics QF match) I am sure most INA fans will agree to that
    Anyway you finally got the point. Congrats and thanks!
    My point is to determine who's real top of the top players as I am also a casual badminton player.

    And your examples are wrong as you need to be more accurate in your calculation. You should include all the top-rankers(around 10) not just two.

    My calculation is similar to the BWF ranking system. But the difference is I only include h-2-h games, not all tornaments to see who's the best among them.
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    Once again, for those who didn't look yet:

    http://www.internationalbadminton.org/ranking.asp?id=3

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    Dozens of irrelevant posts have been deleted.

    Thank you wasting your time.
    Thank you for wasting my time too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narnia View Post
    I have heard some people here get money by posting... Who are they? [...]
    This is quite a loaded comment.
    Care to back it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    This is quite a loaded comment.
    Care to back it up?
    Wound't. If you know more, ask (badadum,) cooler, kwun. Anyway, Thank you for cleaning up the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    This is quite a loaded comment.
    Care to back it up?
    Quote Originally Posted by narnia View Post
    Wound't. If you know more, ask (badadum,) cooler, kwun. Anyway, Thank you for cleaning up the forum.
    Now, that's strange.
    If I knew more, there'd be no reason to ask you.

    And why ask badadum, cooler and kwun?
    Aren't you the only one who made the comment?
    If I'm wrong, please enlighten me.

    Someone needs to clear the air on this.
    Since the comment came from you, shouldn't that someone be you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    Now, that's strange.
    If I knew more, there'd be no reason to ask you.

    And why ask badadum, cooler and kwun?
    Aren't you the only one who made the comment?
    If I'm wrong, please enlighten me.

    Someone needs to clear the air on this.
    Since the comment came from you, shouldn't that someone be you?
    I saw a post here that he or she's getting money but can't locate it.
    Why don't you clean up these off-topics again?

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    LYD - 2008 Olympic Gold Medalist, Current MD-WR#1 & XD-WR#2.
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    Mens' Doubles World Ranking No. 1 Lee Yong Dae / Jung Jae Sung
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