Singapore Foreign Talent... Are they helping the country?

**SibugiChai** · 10-12-2010, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

" disqualified from the Asian Soccer Federation but Singapore has been removed from it because of its domestic league being too "foreign".

Really??? When did this happen?

**george@chongwei** · 10-12-2010, 02:23 AM

in table tennis , yes.
in badminton, i don't think so.

**jimbo** · 10-12-2010, 02:27 AM

For quick success and glory, YES (coz they are rich but lack of talents)
For long term success... errr... BOLEH lolx

**Loh** · 10-12-2010, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by jimbo

For quick success and glory, YES (coz they are rich but lack of talents)
For long term success... errr... BOLEH lolx

I wouldn't say that as a number of our local shooters have already beaten the best in the CWG. Let's say our talents
have more choices than just sports.

**Loh** · 10-12-2010, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by SibugiChai

Really??? When did this happen?

Don't take this too seriously. It depends on the objective.

Foreign players inject variety and a higher standard to the local league and make it more interesting to the spectators.
Otherwise the game could not advance and generate greater support from all angles. It may die a natural death.

Long time ago, Spore played in the Malaysia Cup and the opposition were mainly 'kampong' players. Spore has moved away
from that and managed to stand on its own with a domestic league comprising of locals as well as foreigners. Now Spore players have acquired a higher standard and managed to hold its own at regional games like the SEA Games.

Just look at the current CWG and you could see 'foreign talents' everywhere. If Msia thinks it could do better without them, so be it but it does not mean that others have to follow.

**SibugiChai** · 10-12-2010, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by Loh

Don't take this too seriously. It depends on the objective.

Foreign players inject variety and a higher standard to the local league and make it more interesting to the spectators.
Otherwise the game could not advance and generate greater support from all angles. It may die a natural death.

Long time ago, Spore played in the Malaysia Cup and the opposition were mainly 'kampong' players. Spore has moved away
from that and managed to stand on its own with a domestic league comprising of locals as well as foreigners. Now Spore players have acquired a higher standard and managed to hold its own at regional games like the SEA Games.

Just look at the current CWG and you could see 'foreign talents' everywhere. If Msia thinks it could do better without them, so be it but it does not mean that others have to follow.

oic.. so spore never got suspended la...

just an illustration lol

remember last time i watch Spore Vs Thailand, I thought it was Aus vs thai

**Loh** · 10-12-2010, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by SibugiChai

remember last time i watch Spore Vs Thailand, I thought it was Aus vs thai

Really? Maybe it was a fashion for the players to dye their hair blond etc?

**taneepak** · 10-12-2010, 08:11 AM

The real reason is simply that Singapore was not good enough to rub shoulders with other Asian football giants. Its facilities and spectator attendance are still at the kampung level.
See http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...085372/1/.html and http://www.todayonline.com/Sports/ED...g-Asias-top-10

One wonders who is footing all the costs and covering all the losses with such low attendance and almost no spectators. It is like Hong Kong where huge losses are assumed by playboy millionaires who do not mind watching all the local games by themselves with hardly any paying spectators.

**Loh** · 10-13-2010, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

The real reason is simply that Singapore was not good enough to rub shoulders with other Asian football giants. Its facilities and spectator attendance are still at the kampung level.
See www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/sportsnews/view/1085372/1/.html and www.todayonline.com/Sports/EDC101005-0000085/S-League-no-longer-among-Asias-top-10

One wonders who is footing all the costs and covering all the losses with such low attendance and almost no spectators. It is like Hong Kong where huge losses are assumed by playboy millionaires who do not mind watching all the local games by themselves with hardly any paying spectators.

In general, I don't know what's so strong and attractive about Asian football giants that Spore has to rub shoulders with.

(Source: World Football: http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ra...ion=0&rank=196

The giants in World Football are Spain, Netherlands, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, England, Uruguay, Portugal, Egypt and Chile, the top ten.

The better Asian countries in the world top 50 are:

Egypt (WR9), Croatia (11), Serbia (15), Slovakia (16), Turkey (21), Japan (30), Isreal (36), Czech Rep (37), Montenegro (40), Lithuania (42), Korea (44), Romania (46),

Below them are:

Hungary (51), Bulgaria (54), Iran (57), Saudi Arabia (73), China (82). UAE (90), Syria (94), Morocco (95), Kuwait (96), Uzbekistan (97), Jordan (99)

Then the rest above WR100 are:

Sudan (101), Thailand (102), Qatar (104), North Korea (106), Iraq (107), Singapore (119), Vietnam (125), Indonesia (131), Hong Kong (136), Myanmar (141), Malaysia (144), India (160), Pakistan (162), Philippines (165), etc, etc.

Singapore is ahead of most of its Southeast Asian neighbours and why should it be inferior to the so-called Asian football giants?

Maybe a better exercise to compare the 'Asian giants' with the world giants to see where Asia stands.

**SibugiChai** · 10-13-2010, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Loh

Really? Maybe it was a fashion for the players to dye their hair blond etc?

Singapore saloon did a very good job then.. can u recommend which saloon did these players go?

I wish to have the same hair like them... thanks

**Loh** · 10-13-2010, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by SibugiChai

Singapore saloon did a very good job then.. can u recommend which saloon did these players go?

I wish to have the same hair like them... thanks

Show me a photo first lah.

**weeyeh** · 10-13-2010, 08:18 PM

Asian Giants (in soccer) is quite an oxymoron...

**Loh** · 10-13-2010, 09:56 PM

Our local S-League is really not that bad as even teams from Japan, Korea, China, Australia and elsewhere have participated or are participating in it. Recently even Malaysia has applied to send a team but all the slots were taken up.

Now tell me who is trying to rub shoulders with whom?

**Loh** · 10-13-2010, 10:08 PM

(Now this is what Spore wants to do - to rub shoulders with one of the top clubs in the world.)

Channel NewsAsia
13 October 2010 2129 hrs

SINGAPORE - Singapore billionaire Peter Lim on Wednesday called for a "fair process" in the bid for Liverpool as he welcomed London's High Court decision clearing the way for the sale of the English football giant.

The businessman, who this week made an improved offer of 320 million pounds (507 million US dollars) plus 40 million pounds for investment in players, said he hoped Liverpool's board would consider all bids when it convened later in the day.

Mr Lim's offer is up against the 300-million-pound bid tabled by US-based New England Sports Ventures (NESV), the owners of baseball's Boston Red Sox.

"I hope that when the board is reconstituted tonight that it will not simply ratify a sale to NESV but will consider all the offers before them," Mr Lim said in a statement.

"I am asking the board to run a full and fair process that enables all of the offers to be considered on their merits before the future of the club is decided," he added.

Welcoming the court's decision, Mr Lim said: "The way is now clear for the board to sell the club. I have delivered my offer to the board and believe that my ownership represents the best option for the future of the club and its supporters."

Liverpool owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks on Wednesday lost a legal bid to block the sale of the club after London's High Court granted injunctions brought by the club's major creditors.

Justice Christopher Floyd rejected Hicks and Gillett's request to halt sale negotiations.

Hicks and Gillett, who took over the club in 2007, claimed that the English members of Liverpool's board -- chairman Martin Broughton, Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre -- had not acted in the best interests of the club.

Broughton said a board meeting would be held later Wednesday but refused to confirm the board would formally rubber-stamp the sale to NESV.

- AFP/ir

Peter Lim (Forbes picture)

**SibugiChai** · 10-13-2010, 11:01 PM

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Poland National Football Team

**Loh** · 10-13-2010, 11:17 PM

Aiyoh, Poland team has so many players with black hair!

**taneepak** · 10-13-2010, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Loh

Our local S-League is really not that bad as even teams from Japan, Korea, China, Australia and elsewhere have participated or are participating in it. Recently even Malaysia has applied to send a team but all the slots were taken up.

Now tell me who is trying to rub shoulders with whom?

You must be joking, trying to make a demotion as a great promotion for Singapore soccer.
The Asian Football Confederation Champions League is the highest level in which Asia's best 32 clubs plus 2 lower-level clubs who come through from playoffs are included. Singapore has in the past come through as one of the lower-level playoffs qualifier but it did not do well, hence it "backed" off before being kicked out.
How can you compare Singapore's league champions with the likes of Kore'a Pohang Steelers, Japan's Gamba Osaka, Adelaide United, Al-lttihad?
Do you know that the champions get to play in the FIFA Club World Cup and the prize money is in the millions (US$)?
In comparison, why be so "kia su"? It will be better to be humiliated in the Asian Champions League than to be called "chicken" by running away?