Taufik Hidayat

**cooler** · 02-09-2009, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by indra

These new skills are " the first, new and limited edition" developed to be demonstrated in the 2009 All England only. These newly acquired and developed skills are tailored to defeating PG, LCW and LD...

OK...I let you know only one of the 7 magic techniques:

1. The so-called Tornado jumping smash
Jumping and turning his body 360 degree while smashing.....

good good, hope TH keep doing those energy sucking tricks.
u played video games too much. In real life, there isn't health pill or a button for replay lol

**Krisna** · 02-09-2009, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

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So ... Could it be a Taufik vs LD final then?

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Maybe it is better for Taufik to face Lin Dan in the 1st round... because if they meet in the finals... Taufik's body will have to already endure 4 days of grueling tests...

He might not have anything left by the 5th day...

And... Lin Dan have shown in the past that he might not be hard-battle ready in the 1st round... Lin often got better as the tournament progressed and even peaked in the finals... [did you see the Olympic 2008 overwhelming destruction of LCW?]

Lin Dan was just absolutely unstopabble that day...

**limsy** · 02-09-2009, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Krisna

Maybe it is better for Taufik to face Lin Dan in the 1st round... because if they meet in the finals... Taufik's body will have to already endure 4 days of grueling tests...

He might not have anything left by the 5th day...

And... Lin Dan have shown in the past that he might not be hard-battle ready in the 1st round... Lin often got better as the tournament progressed and even peaked in the finals... [did you see the Olympic 2008 overwhelming destruction of LCW?]

Lin Dan was just absolutely unstopabble that day...

it is imposible when ld is seeded 2 and th is seeded 7...

**taneepak** · 02-09-2009, 05:37 AM

I strongly believe this is the beginning of the end for Taufik. Without the strictly discipline and strict training in the national squad, Taufik will become a second rate player in a year's time, following in the foot steps of Chen Hong.

**koo_fan** · 02-09-2009, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

I strongly believe this is the beginning of the end for Taufik. Without the strictly discipline and strict training in the national squad, Taufik will become a second rate player in a year's time, following in the foot steps of Chen Hong.

Disagree.U cannot generalize.Chen Hong is Chen Hong.
One Independent Professional Badminton Player is on the way, how can you tell the end of his journey?
Taufik and other Indo players might be the pioneer.

**taneepak** · 02-09-2009, 06:03 AM

Korea's Lee Hyun Il left the national squad at one time to train on his own, and he got nowhere except downhill all the way. Once back in the national squad, he did well and even got to the last 4 in the Beijing Olympics.

**limsy** · 02-09-2009, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

Korea's Lee Hyun Il left the national squad at one time to train on his own, and he got nowhere except downhill all the way. Once back in the national squad, he did well and even got to the last 4 in the Beijing Olympics.

no...once lhi quit...he didnt participate in any international tournament at all...if i am recall correctly...

**badadum** · 02-09-2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

I strongly believe this is the beginning of the end for Taufik. Without the strictly discipline and strict training in the national squad, Taufik will become a second rate player in a year's time, following in the foot steps of Chen Hong.

Tony G and Candra....enough proof there?

**limsy** · 02-09-2009, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by badadum

Tony G and Candra....enough proof there?

enough....as th and tg/cw all are og god medalist and wc...

**chris-ccc** · 02-09-2009, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Krisna

Maybe it is better for Taufik to face Lin Dan in the 1st round... because if they meet in the finals... Taufik's body will have to already endure 4 days of grueling tests...

He might not have anything left by the 5th day...

And... Lin Dan have shown in the past that he might not be hard-battle ready in the 1st round... Lin often got better as the tournament progressed and even peaked in the finals... [did you see the Olympic 2008 overwhelming destruction of LCW?]

Lin Dan was just absolutely unstopabble that day...

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These 4 Heavenly Kings, LCW, LD, PG and TH could probably meet each other at the Semi-Finals at 2009 AE.
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**limsy** · 02-09-2009, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

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These 4 Heavenly Kings, LCW, LD, PG and TH could probably meet each other at the Semi-Finals at 2009 AE.
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well...i hope is lcw vs pg...th vs ld...lcw beat pg and th beat ld...

**Krisna** · 02-09-2009, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

I strongly believe this is the beginning of the end for Taufik. Without the strictly discipline and strict training in the national squad, Taufik will become a second rate player in a year's time, following in the foot steps of Chen Hong.

I hope not. After 1 All England title and 1 more INA Open title, then he can go downhill...

Originally Posted by koo_fan

Disagree.U cannot generalize.Chen Hong is Chen Hong.
One Independent Professional Badminton Player is on the way, how can you tell the end of his journey?
Taufik and other Indo players might be the pioneer.

We hope so. Best of luck to Taufik, Alvent-Hendra AG, Flandy-Halim, etc...

Originally Posted by badadum

Tony G and Candra....enough proof there?

Yes, Tony-Candra won many SS titles or at least reach the semifinals of SS tournaments after they left the National Team... Tony G. actually even won the World Championship in 2005....

without the INA National Team...

**taneepak** · 02-09-2009, 08:52 AM

Doubles players have a higher average playing life span, not so with singles players. Without the strict and tough training provided in national squads, it is very difficult for independent singles players to be at their peak. Their greatest weakness will be fitness or lack of it.

**limsy** · 02-09-2009, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

Without the strict and tough training provided in national squads

denmark and other europe country didnt train everyday...i remember i read it somewhere when thomas laybourn say they train 3 days a week???...

**cooler** · 02-09-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by koo_fan

Disagree.U cannot generalize.Chen Hong is Chen Hong.
One Independent Professional Badminton Player is on the way, how can you tell the end of his journey?
Taufik and other Indo players might be the pioneer.

true, chen hong isn't like TH, chen hong doesn't smoke, drink nor go clubbing