Armortec 700 and 900P

**weeyeh** · 03-18-2009, 09:24 PM

Nice!!

You can also try this (after spending a long time at the shop looking at many many rackets, potentially wasting the uncle's time):
You: Uncle, how much you selling this one?
Uncle: $100
You: Uncle, <name another shop> selling at $80 leh but I want to buy from you because you are nicer to me.
Uncle: $80? But my buying price already higher than $80
You: then how much can you give me?
Uncle: $90.
You: Uncle, I also need shuttles (worth $20). We settle at $100 for everything how?
Uncle: ...

The point here is still negotiating position. Important tip in negotiation, always think win-win.

Consider if you will be a long term customer. If the shop is treating you well, a $10-$20 extra now may mean better prices in future so you will still get a net a long term saving
Let the shop consider the same -- future revenue.
If the uncle has spent a long time with you, he will be more obliged to close the deal.
It's important to know what the uncle's competition is offering. You may round it down a bit, e.g. $255 -> $250 but be careful if you attempt to bluff. It's risks point 1. In .sg, be very wary of that because the shop keepers seem to know each other's prices.
Uncle's concern is usually profit per transaction. If you can get him to package your purchase, you can save from other items. E.g. basic racket comes with free grip + string. Ask for a higher end string, include 2-3 tubes of shuttles (which you need anyway), more grips, a bigger racket bag. Know the price of all these. It's easier for the uncle to give you a better discount this way.

Things are much easier if you already established a good relationship with the shop. Offering to buy the uncle coffee may be pushing it but if you can develop a long term relationship with the shop, it will benefit you in many ways in the future. If the uncle knows you are a long term customer, he will offer you a good price.

**Amin Khalili** · 03-18-2009, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by akrylik

How to nego:

Initial price: $100

Always go 15~20% lower than asking price.

You: Hey uncle $80 can can hao?
Uncle: No la $80 I oso don't make profit then will mati. I can let go for $95
You: No la uncle $95 too expensive. I am poor student la. Give $85 good price boleh la!
Uncle: Wah lau, $92 no lower liao or I sell and sell badminton gear till si liao also never get rich..
You: Ok ok la $90, look I have no more money uncle! (Show your wallet with the other $10 taken out prior to the nego).
Uncle: Ok la ok I give you.
You: Oh thank you uncle! So pai seh...

How if the retail price is rm999 but somebody already got to rm700-rm800 ???

**NisroL_JR** · 03-19-2009, 01:37 AM

I just bought 1 more AT700 yesterday, at KK, Sabah. "Accidentally" I found one shop still selling it at old sunrise price RM649. Only one left. Got 10% discount, so I get it RM585. Without any doubt I give my card and swipe it

But of course, the price for racquet only

**Amin Khalili** · 03-19-2009, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by weeyeh

Nice!!

You can also try this (after spending a long time at the shop looking at many many rackets, potentially wasting the uncle's time):
You: Uncle, how much you selling this one?
Uncle: $100
You: Uncle, <name another shop> selling at $80 leh but I want to buy from you because you are nicer to me.
Uncle: $80? But my buying price already higher than $80
You: then how much can you give me?
Uncle: $90.
You: Uncle, I also need shuttles (worth $20). We settle at $100 for everything how?
Uncle: ...

The point here is still negotiating position. Important tip in negotiation, always think win-win.

Consider if you will be a long term customer. If the shop is treating you well, a $10-$20 extra now may mean better prices in future so you will still get a net a long term saving
Let the shop consider the same -- future revenue.
If the uncle has spent a long time with you, he will be more obliged to close the deal.
It's important to know what the uncle's competition is offering. You may round it down a bit, e.g. $255 -> $250 but be careful if you attempt to bluff. It's risks point 1. In .sg, be very wary of that because the shop keepers seem to know each other's prices.
Uncle's concern is usually profit per transaction. If you can get him to package your purchase, you can save from other items. E.g. basic racket comes with free grip + string. Ask for a higher end string, include 2-3 tubes of shuttles (which you need anyway), more grips, a bigger racket bag. Know the price of all these. It's easier for the uncle to give you a better discount this way.

Things are much easier if you already established a good relationship with the shop. Offering to buy the uncle coffee may be pushing it but if you can develop a long term relationship with the shop, it will benefit you in many ways in the future. If the uncle knows you are a long term customer, he will offer you a good price.

how if the retail price rm999 but can get until rm700-rm800 ... can help?

**NisroL_JR** · 03-19-2009, 04:50 AM

En Amin, you want to buy Armotec700limited edition??

Go to Pertama complex la, atleast you can get RM800

**akrylik** · 03-19-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Amin Khalili

How if the retail price is rm999 but somebody already got to rm700-rm800 ???

You: Ok la uncle I no buy from here. The price make me heartache!
Uncle: Ok ok you take ha but remember my good deed!

The 200 rm price cut is theoritically possible. You also need that "Oh please kesian me" appearance. Don't come to his store and dangle your BMW key on his nose.

The above method posted by weeyeh is also a highly recommended method.

Just an addition, you can try to kacau him too by buying this and that product.

ie:

Racket: 800 rm
Shuttle: 30 rm
Indomie x4: 12 rm
Grip: 21 rm

Then say to him; All for 840 la ok uncle? I happy you happy.

Usually works

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