What is still lacking in LCW?

**george@chongwei** · 03-10-2009, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

Watching... and waiting

im glad u are aware of it, oldhand

my hot water temperature has got its limit

**limsy** · 03-10-2009, 05:29 AM

i really feel sad for ina...having some tat embrassing their own country....

....sigh....hope u can really learn ur lesson...and grow up....live in hate and anger...is bad for ur own healthy....

...dont live in ur own world...try to walk out...

**williamtan2020** · 03-10-2009, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by koo_fan

Support from Malaysian is there.I doubt if anyone of us would want him to lose.Never ever.
The way to imply the support, each of us different.
I would want to think Lee Chong Wei wanted Malaysians to give him support, as i would want the same thing if i was him.
Badminton is a passion, it matters for me if LCW win or lose, simply because it matters.
But hey..Ld's might be better than him, that's how things are.3 wins and 11 losts.Facts.
I'd want Lee Chong Wei to fight, fight and fight.Possibility of winning or not winning depends on who's performing better that day.For that, Chong wei, you can!

That's right, we want him to fight till the end but I always get the feeling that after CW gets beaten by dan, he steped of the court without giving everthing he's got. Is it fighting sprit or wrong strategy applied?

**eaglehelang** · 03-10-2009, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

im glad u are aware of it, oldhand

my hot water temperature has got its limit

Why your "hot water temperature" boiling? Ooops, i found out why, dr65 is back.

**eaglehelang** · 03-10-2009, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by danielwong

same answer,
.............(shorten to save space, hehe)
4) Malaysia already have biggest bla bla bla in the world, but cant even win
a major titles in badminton, he is so sick with that...

Errrr, we already know these points for the past.....1.5 years, if you catch my drift

Originally Posted by Dato Asbullah

.......
By the way, INA should thank Mas for sending INA players back to the country in early so that they can save the accommodation and other cost inccurred.

LOL, that's a good one. Dato, you really should apply to replace Kenny Goh.

**abedeng** · 03-10-2009, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jonc108

LCW is LCW, he is already a very good player. Without LD's presence, he could be the best player now. However, LD exists. LD is the best then.

LCW is not LD, you should not expect him to learn from LD and play LD's way to beat LD. This may be already LCW's best. Don't forget LD is one year younger than LCW...

LCW is already trying his best, but his best could not yet match LD's best, or LD's 80% of his best, at least now, and the foreseable future...

This LCW and LD saga reminds me of the late Svend Pri and Rudy Hartono. Hartono was the LD of the 70s, Pri didn't get to beat him more than a couple of times (I think), but I was there when Pri took home the All-England title in '75, upsetting Rudy Hartono the way Punch Gunalan failed to do a year before.

**X Ball** · 03-10-2009, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by abedeng

This LCW and LD saga reminds me of the late Svend Pri and Rudy Hartono. Hartono was the LD of the 70s, Pri didn't get to beat him more than a couple of times (I think), but I was there when Pri took home the All-England title in '75, upsetting Rudy Hartono the way Punch Gunalan failed to do a year before.

In another word, let us not take it for granted that LD will win every time ?

I agree fully, everybody improves over time if they are ready to learn. LCW will not go away thinking this is the end of his career, that he will only live in LD's shadow. That would be Pemuda's line of thinking - he went to the wrong Uni. unfortunately.

Too late for him now.

**X Ball** · 03-10-2009, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

Watching... and waiting

Old hand, are you ready for an ICE LEMON TEA that you won from me? Come get it

or wait for my next trip to Singapore, which could be some time.

**jensen9173** · 03-10-2009, 06:56 AM

LCW lack of confidence against LD. He should think of he is the champion not LD. Also he played too safe and lack of smash or attacking. AT700 vs AT900P

**X Ball** · 03-10-2009, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by jensen9173

LCW lack of confidence against LD. He should think of he is the champion not LD. Also he played too safe and lack of smash or attacking. AT700 vs AT900P

When one is playing a very well trained LD, one needs to be at your best. If your concentration deserts you, it will be all over fast -- as the 2nd game showed. But if you take the 1st set, it could have gone either way. LD played the big points at the tail end unfortunately.

**dassad** · 03-10-2009, 07:18 AM

ok I has seen a match as well.
So - an answer is "nothing". LCW currently doesnt lack something, he is just weaker. The score is showing as it was hard for LD, but a game itself - no))
LCW played much better than in 2008, and 2 straight stupid mistakes at 19:17 are showing a lot of drama inside. But it seems even without those mistakes LD was able to win the first set

**green.blood** · 03-10-2009, 07:33 AM

LD is simply one step ahead in class. He rarely made unforced errors, has killer smashes, quick and very consistent. He is a machine!!!

LCW in the other hand plays beautifully but prone to errors in big matches.

This is a result when you have 7 world class sparring partners and 4 mental trainers

Anyway in the Olympic 2008 finals LD reminds me to an Energizer TV advertisement. The match was like alkaline batt vs. normal batt...

**sysoh** · 03-10-2009, 07:34 AM

No doubt that LD is the most complete player on the planet. It is also no doubt that China did the match-fixing in so many tournaments. With LD's strength, they do not need to do this. Shame on LYB. Also shame on some of the Chinese media, they like to misinterpret some of the news, e.g. Rashid's comment on match-fixing. They also always omit the Head to Head data of Sudirman cup and Thomas cup since BWF does not have this data in their database.

**danielwong** · 03-11-2009, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by Louisa

Yup, for me, ppl like Pemuda, Cooler & Bananakid, they are using more civilized words though bashing our players...kinda teasing I guess...but for a small number of Chn fans, they use 'xxxx' words which were really.....But, not all of them like what I mentioned, a small number of them...

huh? realli? i would like to join those site then...

would like to use xxx words...but too bad, i dunno chinese

**AlanY** · 03-11-2009, 05:48 AM

What LCW needed is a bit of luck to get a couple of good and squarely won matches against LD. I do believe that there is not much difference between them both technically and tactically. LCW just needed that extra bit of luck to get over that mental block that he can beat LD. May be then we will have better matches between the top 2 players at the moment. I was at the AE last week, LCW just does not has the confident nor conviction that he can win, unfortunately.

**jensen9173** · 03-11-2009, 06:19 AM

Yup! agree!!!! and he himself had admitted that when he enter the court LCW got afraid of felling toward LD. So the point is clear when you afraid of someone in match you had lost 30%

Originally Posted by AlanY

What LCW needed is a bit of luck to get a couple of good and squarely won matches against LD. I do believe that there is not much difference between them both technically and tactically. LCW just needed that extra bit of luck to get over that mental block that he can beat LD. May be then we will have better matches between the top 2 players at the moment. I was at the AE last week, LCW just does not has the confident nor conviction that he can win, unfortunately.

***Oldhand*** · 03-11-2009, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by AlanY

What LCW needed is a bit of luck to get a couple of good and squarely won matches against LD. I do believe that there is not much difference between them both technically and tactically. LCW just needed that extra bit of luck to get over that mental block that he can beat LD. May be then we will have better matches between the top 2 players at the moment. I was at the AE last week, LCW just does not has the confident nor conviction that he can win, unfortunately.

Lee Chong Wei needs luck?

But his game has been full of it.

See this post.