Thread: acceleration point for smashes?
03-08-2009, 02:27 PM #1
acceleration point for smashes?
i have a great smash but i've been trying to push my limits and get the most out of my technique. i play men's doubles and i can get behind the shuttle early enough to get in a jump smash. my contact point is high and out in front of me and i am proficient in wrist and forearm rotation along with the tightening of grip. i've also got the "scissor kick" down into a second nature habit and use it with all overhead strokes. basically, i have a good foundation of all the major and minor details and nuances down and practice them on a regular basis.
but my question is, where is the perfect (or ideal) acceleration point of a smash? what i mean by acceleration point is the point where you focus almost all of your energy into the extreme acceleration of the COMBINED wrist snap/forearm rotation/grip tightening. do you get the most out of your power by waiting till the absolute last second to start accelerating? do you start your acceleration early so that by the time the shuttle enters your ideal contact point your stroke is just finishing? is it somewhere in the middle of the aforementioned points? help me BCers!
03-08-2009, 09:07 PM #2
Generally, I accelerate the snap after I wind up my racket to hit. That's probably as specific as I can get. I can't describe how fast I start to accelerate in units of time.
Quick question though, are you using your body rotation as well and leaning into your smash with your body when you smash? This can also give you added power to your smash as well if you use it correctly with your shoulder/forearm rotation.
03-08-2009, 09:39 PM #3
the power comes from the torso
03-09-2009, 01:17 PM #4
Obviosuly all the power cant come from the torso , power is generated by everything ^^ ^^
03-09-2009, 01:25 PM #5
Okay, here it is, you should ask him about it, he sounds like he's really good.
03-09-2009, 02:16 PM #6
But it's true, if you have a great smash, then chances are all your acceleration points etc, etc are fine. If it works, why change it?
03-09-2009, 02:26 PM #7
03-09-2009, 02:28 PM #8
03-09-2009, 05:56 PM #9
03-09-2009, 09:59 PM #10
In a smash, you want the racket to be fastest at contact with the shuttle, this will give the most power. However control is just as important, so focusing everything on power isn't such a good idea. These are the basic concepts of a smash, even a beginner who doesn't know how to smash well can understand the logic.
So arturosauce ask when to start racket acceleration, body rotation, etc.. But timing for everyone is different, depending on how high you can jump or how fast you can swing. If he is as good as he claims, then it's quite easy to practice different smash timings on court. There really isn't a need to ask other people what they do during a smash in a fraction of a second.
03-09-2009, 10:42 PM #11
i learned how to jump smash from jonas rasmussen
he just told me to jump with your hands and place the birdie in your hands and smash!
03-09-2009, 10:49 PM #12
first of all my intentions aren't to brag about how high and mighty i am, because i'm not. all i said was i have a great smash. for some reason you interpreted that as "i have the best smash in the world" for you to make it seem like i'm boasting. i have no idea why you would even say something like that. i would appreciate it if you help out instead of trying to straw man me.
the reason i mentioned all those details in the first paragraph is so that people wouldn't mention it to me in their replies. i didn't want people telling me to get far behind the birdie or use body rotation etc, because i already know how to do that.
my goal is to get feedback on acceleration points for the wrist snap/forearm rotation/grip tightening. if you had read my second paragraph, i mentioned 3 different acceleration points for a smash. doesn't that make you think i've experimented with them already? like i said, i'm trying to get feedback from others so i can improve my game. if you aren't gonna contribute to this thread, don't bother replying.
Last edited by arturosauce; 03-09-2009 at 10:54 PM.
03-09-2009, 10:56 PM #13
Sometimes I like to contribute humor to threads I read, if it doesn't offend people, great! If it offends people, great!
03-09-2009, 11:07 PM #14
well every one has there own way of jump smashing
mine is jumping the way jonas r. dose but i turn my body about 40 degrees move my arm to where i will flick my wrist for the smash and it would land about 4-6 inches from the service line
03-09-2009, 11:32 PM #15
03-09-2009, 11:48 PM #16
03-10-2009, 03:37 AM #17
Well since you are saying you're doing everything, the only way to even give advice is to actually see how you smash or jump smash. Seeing how you do it is better than any description of your smash.
As stated by others, you should reach max acceleration by the time you hit the birdie. If you feel otherwise (which is maybe why you're asking the question), only experimentation can help. Or asking someone who smashes even better than you to see what advice they can give you after looking at you smash. I have maybe one question that you can ponder that might help:
-Where does your smash usually hit (given that you smash from backcourt)? Mid-court? Near the back service line? Do your smashes usually barely pass over the net?
You'll probably know what I'm getting at already. The angle of the smash. Is it steep? A steep smash with the same power increases the lethality of a killer smash. A flat smash of the same power may throw off the opponent once or twice, but it's not going to really pressure your opponent.
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