Let's conclude it, Lin Dan is the best MS baddy player in human history.

**cooler** · 05-19-2010, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by visor

As limsy said, it's a matter of inborn personality and there is nothing he nor his coaches can do to change it. This can be gleaned from press interviews and off court behaviour. He is just too cordial, meek, nice. Compare to LD, who is aggressive, even arrogant. The one who believes in himself, even to the point of conceit and arrogance, will dominate... all else being equal.And don't think that LCW is the only one tempted to enjoy the good life with his fame and fortune, I'm sure LD does the same too.

hmm, who said 'I never lost in malaysia'? Is that meek?

well, all those 'qualities' u had listed were endorsed by LN. More sour grape?

**limsy** · 05-19-2010, 03:10 PM

well
even i didnt lost in malaysia
haha
i born here
live here more than 19 years
how to get lost?
haha
just joking

**pralinescream** · 05-20-2010, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by visor

.And don't think that LCW is the only one tempted to enjoy the good life with his fame and fortune, I'm sure LD does the same too.

disagree wt this naive statement.
sum ppl are more driven than most.
winners have highest pride, sense of pride, never say die attitude and always seek for higher level of skill and enlightenment in a specific discipline.

sum ppl are less driven, with low pride, easily die attitude and just content to be the best in the small pond.

of course, it depends on many factors. most of it is in-born; some is influenced by others, e.g. endless praises, blind idol worshipping by low-demanding fans, etc.

**visor** · 05-20-2010, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by cooler

hmm, who said 'I never lost in malaysia'? Is that meek?

well, all those 'qualities' u had listed were endorsed by LN. More sour grape?

I'm not sure I understand you... can you clarify?

**visor** · 05-20-2010, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by pralinescream

disagree wt this naive statement.
sum ppl are more driven than most.
winners have highest pride, sense of pride, never say die attitude and always seek for higher level of skill and enlightenment in a specific discipline.

sum ppl are less driven, with low pride, easily die attitude and just content to be the best in the small pond.

of course, it depends on many factors. most of it is in-born; some is influenced by others, e.g. endless praises, blind idol worshipping by low-demanding fans, etc.

True, true.

I'm sure both LD and LCW are quite driven to succeed... just one more than the other.

**george@chongwei** · 05-20-2010, 02:46 AM

Just look at his style of play during his younger days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXDYErqfFq4

**flikflak** · 05-20-2010, 12:29 PM

The greatest player of his generation: Yes definitely, based on his results from the past five years.

The greatest player of human history: You must be joking, the answer is certainly 'No' until he could match or break other players' amazing records. And I believe every 10-20 years to come we will see some greater players than LD.

**pBmMalaysia** · 05-20-2010, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by pralinescream

disagree wt this naive statement.
sum ppl are more driven than most.
winners have highest pride, sense of pride, never say die attitude and always seek for higher level of skill and enlightenment in a specific discipline.

sum ppl are less driven, with low pride, easily die attitude and just content to be the best in the small pond.

of course, it depends on many factors. most of it is in-born; some is influenced by others, e.g. endless praises, blind idol worshipping by low-demanding fans, etc.

i certainly hope you are not reffering to lin dan and lee chong wei!

**extremenanopowe** · 05-20-2010, 09:56 PM

lol.................... Tgif

**cooler** · 05-21-2010, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

Just look at his style of play during his younger days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXDYErqfFq4

good find george, i haven't seen this match before

**cooler** · 05-21-2010, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by flikflak

The greatest player of his generation: Yes definitely, based on his results from the past five years.

The greatest player of human history: You must be joking, the answer is certainly 'No' until he could match or break other players' amazing records. And I believe every 10-20 years to come we will see some greater players than LD.

what other player's amazing records would that be?

**pBmMalaysia** · 05-21-2010, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by cooler

good find george, i haven't seen this match before

...because he beats you to a thousand odd post

Originally Posted by cooler

what other player's amazing records would that be?

i think he refers to the old records something like for example, rudy hartono 8x all england...........?

**george@chongwei** · 05-21-2010, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by extremenanopowe

lol.................... Tgif

What is tgif?..

**OneToughBirdie** · 05-21-2010, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

What is tgif?..

Thanks God it is Friday

that is the weekend is coming up.

**cooler** · 05-21-2010, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

... think he refers to the old records something like for example, rudy hartono 8x all england...........?

ya, kinda, i thot so too, that one off record but can't be compare to today's LD. It's like comparing apples and oranges. You see, back then

1. china can't compete and there were many chinese great ones who can upset Rudy H. back then
2. not many competent opponents except, Svend Pri, Christian Hadinata, Punch Gunalan. When Liem Swie King came along later, rudy H. was toast.

**flikflak** · 05-21-2010, 01:59 AM

Same thing like LD. Who can challenge him 'closely' beside LCW nowadays? No competition. Not many competent opponents. The rest just feels like cheerleaders.

Can't blame him though.

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**pBmMalaysia** · 05-21-2010, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by flikflak

Same thing like LD. Who can challenge him 'closely' beside LCW nowadays? No competition. Not many competent opponents. The rest just feels like cheerleaders.

Can't blame him though.

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todays game is different than yesteryears very much a lot

its very competitive and smart training/participation is the key for most winners

even lin dan, supposedly to be the best today is still very much beatable.
in 2010 alone how many times was he beaten? his last win in the tc 2010 is, of course spectacular - all won in straight sets but can he continue such dominance? i don't think so