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06-03-2010, 01:53 AM #307
06-03-2010, 02:31 AM #308
06-03-2010, 12:49 PM #309
As for the all time best, i wouldn't put Rudy H. at the top, although winning 7 straight AE titles is really a phenomenal accomplishment. Again, different era and time. If you ask my opinion, I would put him as arguably one of the top 3 if not top 5 best MS in history.
Last edited by ctjcad; 06-03-2010 at 12:55 PM.
06-03-2010, 04:21 PM #310
06-03-2010, 05:28 PM #311
..so, who should Rudy Hartono thank for his 8 AE titles??..
06-04-2010, 01:40 AM #312
06-04-2010, 02:40 AM #313
Thing and How didn't compete in international games in the 60s and 70s so couldnt count. And remember THing and How's skills were honed in Indonesia by Indonesian coaches. If Thing and How had competed whether with INA or CHN, Indonesian coaches would up the training of Rudy and his colleagues. Rudy s won all those 8 championship fair and square. Remember, the mercurial Iie Sumirat beat both Thing and How in 75. Thing and How were already in their 30s they were one generation ahead of Rudy, Muljadi and Iie. So we cant compare.
06-04-2010, 09:37 AM #314
Tang Xinhu once (basically at the end of his playing career) beat another great player, Erland Kops (who was 5 yrs older than Tang), in an exhibition game, by the score of 15-0, 15-0..
I think Rudy was also lucky (or maybe smart to keep himself in shape) not to sustain any injury or lingering injury; sustaining that long of an achievement was not easy..
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06-04-2010, 10:53 AM #315
06-04-2010, 04:18 PM #316
06-04-2010, 04:23 PM #317
06-05-2010, 06:34 AM #318
It could went the same way to the WC as well. RH could have crowned world champions 4 times if the inaugural edition begin in the 60s and not till 1977.
Also take note that the very first few editions of the WC was held once in every 3 years and later changed to once in 2 years unlike for 2006-2009, it was an annual event where it benefited the winner on his records book. And that is LD being the case in discussion here.
So based on yours people ways of assumptions, I would say RH was the one who sets the bar so high that nobody could come near him statistically. For that matter, RD is the best player in the history of badminton and not LD!
For you being ignorant, biased and only see one side of a coin, that's how I would remember you.
Last edited by Aspire; 06-05-2010 at 06:44 AM.
06-05-2010, 07:37 AM #319
We cannot say that Lin Dan is the best MS player in human history
We cannot say that Lin Dan is the best MS player in human history.
We can only say that he is found to be the best MS player playing currently.
06-05-2010, 08:02 AM #320
The game is developing all the time, so the new players are better equip (technically physically equipment people suport etc) than before. So lets say today the young RH meets with LD, i will bet my house LD will not only win but will thrash RH. But ofcourse they live in different era, it was simply imposible for RH (although he may have the capability) to reach LD current level. The game simply was not yet developed to the current level. And if we look to the future, better players than LD will emerge. And they will play at the level we cant even imagine properly right now, and thats something that also imposible for LD to reach today.
Therefore if the question is simply on LD is the best MS player ever, I would say yes. I would also say yes, if the question ask if in the future the best MS player will be better than LD. Its too simple and it happens in every sports, Tyson vs Ali, Maradona vs Pele, Federer vs Sampras etc. I like the later discussion that focuses more on the winning record, that way we can better compare apple with apple.
06-05-2010, 08:11 AM #321
''he is the best ms players during the era of lcw, pg, cj, bcl and th even thought he never was the world number 1 during that time''
this is what i gonna tell my kids when he grows up
06-05-2010, 08:49 AM #322
We cannot conclude that LD is the best
That's correct; We cannot conclude that LD is the best MS Badminton player in human history.
We can only state something like;
LD won w AE titles
RH won x AE titles
FHF smashed at y speed
TBH smashed at z speed
The thread opener could have put a question for us to answer, say, something like;
Is Lin Dan the best MS baddy player in human history?
06-05-2010, 09:13 AM #323
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