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    Hi guys! I just recently graduated, I have a degree in Psychology and im also a varsity player at my school, well if you have any questions or Psychological problems or maybe court tantrums, you can ask me and i'll try my best to solve your problem using the concepts of psychology. Well, I still dont have a masters degree in Sport Psychology but answering your questions will also help me prepare for my future work, we can help each other this way, just post your questions and i'll reply with the answer..

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    Ooh, nice. And a varsity player too! I'd rather have you solve my problems on certain badminton strokes

    Q1: How have you applied your degree in Psych to badminton? I'm really interested.

    Q2: I may be too critical of myself at times, and end up getting frustrated easily. It doesn't really hinder my play much, but it's sort of a bad habit. How do you work around this?

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    yes actually, one theory in psychology is that you cant help others psychologically if you cant even help yourself. I also have the same problem as you, and what's bad is that it really affects my game, not only my game, but my partner's game as well (especially in doubles), I end up having three opponents, the partners on the other side of the court, and my partner. Actually I have a column on a badminton magazine in the Philippines, but it just recently fold up. My last column is about positive thinking, getting away from frustrations. I'll try to post in here in BC.

    Anyways to answer your question, there are many ways to work around it, actually what i suggest is that you make use of that frustration for you to improve, since it doesn't really have an effect on your game negatively, then you can you use it positively. Frustration is like a fire inside you, it can either burn you or fire you up even more. The way I see it, the cause of your frustration is that you are a perfectionist, in everything you do, that's why I frimly believe that you can excel in whatever you do, specially in sports (regardless of you being a club player/ varsity or whatever). I suggest that you train, not just play but somehow take some time to practice your strokes or footwork. Just the thought of training will ease the feeling of frustration, thinking that you did your best in training and improving even though you commit some errors or be defeated in a certain match or tournament, just train, remember, not training to win is training to lose.

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    if you entered into a competition and you know that all your matches are going to be against tough/superior opponents, what kind of mindset should you have before and during the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by macazteeg View Post
    Hi guys! I just recently graduated, I have a degree in Psychology and im also a varsity player at my school, well if you have any questions or Psychological problems or maybe court tantrums, you can ask me and i'll try my best to solve your problem using the concepts of psychology. Well, I still dont have a masters degree in Sport Psychology but answering your questions will also help me prepare for my future work, we can help each other this way, just post your questions and i'll reply with the answer..
    ok,here's 1.
    is a person psychic born or learned? If both, can a weak psych person be trained to be as good as a person with great psych.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vittorio790 View Post
    if you entered into a competition and you know that all your matches are going to be against tough/superior opponents, what kind of mindset should you have before and during the game

    Well, there is a technique in sport psychology called performance segmenting, in which an athlete has the mindset of focusing on internal factors instead of external or uncontrollable factors. When applied to badminton, external factors/ uncontrollable factors may include the court or place of a competition, umpire, line judges, and of course, your opponents. Since you cant control really who will be your opponents are for a certain tournament/ match or competition, it maybe worth focusing not on your opponent and who your opponents are but in your own game, that's a factor you can control. Always have a certain mindset when you enter games that "whoever my opponents are, I will do my best" and when I say whoever, I really mean whoever, it may be against Taufik, Lin Dan or anyone, just do your best. Lee Chong Wei has this principle of always doing his best in matches, even if his opponent is far lower than his level. This attitude is what made him a great player today. Excellence, or to excel, is not just a one shot deal, it's a habit of doing your best in anything you do, or any match you play.

    During the match you can do positive self talk, instead of being frustrated against better opponents, trying saying positive words like "i can do this" or "i will not make errors" or "i can do better than this", stuffs like that, elite athletes do this positive self talk. One thing you should do is to really say the words to yourself, not just to think of it. If you have watched the film Rocky 3, in between rounds rocky and his coach said "no pain", that way he won't feel it. What you think is what you feel, if you say "im tired" it will make you fell tired, however if you say "im not tired, bring it on!!" that must really pump you up. And most importantly, to constantly think and focus on what to do instead of just actin on your instinct, no matter who is against you is human, must have a weakness. Michael Jordan said " If I can't break a wall, I go around it" always find a way, and never give up until the final point is made. Give em hell even if the odds are against you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    ok,here's 1.
    is a person psychic born or learned? If both, can a weak psych person be trained to be as good as a person with great psych.?
    I hope what you mean by having a person with great psych or weak psych is the mental toughness of a person. That is how a person reacts on pressure especially during sporting competitions. Like when a person is under pressure, on how he/she will react, either to be challenged by the situation and do whatever it takes to get out of that situation, or to just give up.

    In elite sporting competition, this is what separates a winner from a loser, they may have the same amount or intensity in training, or even if a person do a higher intensity of training, it will be useless if your not mentally tough. "Sooner or later, the person who wins, is the one who thinks he can", this quote was from the greatest boxer of all time, Muhammad Ali.

    In psychology we have a theory called tabula rasa, or clean slate. That is, when a person is born, he/ she is like a clean bond paper with no marks on it. What im saying is, being mentally tough is learned, your not born with it, its just a matter of choice, to give up or not to. This choice can be motivated by the factors around you, especially the crowd.

    To answer you first question, again being mentally tough is not hereditary, its a matter of choice which depends on external factors or your past experiences. But yes, being mentally tough can be learned, any behavior can be learned or manipulated, as in "any". It's just a matter of "who" are "what". Who, who are the people that can give you motivation? It maybe your coach, my coach used to be a very good motivator, and my coach is my dad. Or it maybe people in the crowd, like chinese people in sporting events shouting "jia you!!" (more oil). And what in terms of What are your goals, if you want an Olympic gold medal, go get it, dont let anyone stop you, which is in reality the only thing that can stop you is yourself. Being mentally tough or having a good psych can be trained, remember, its just a matter of "who are the people who can train you or motivate you" and to always remember "what are your goals".

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    Thanks macazteeg for all your encouragement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Thanks macazteeg for all your encouragement.
    Welcome bro!! I got lots of it, just say if you need some

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    Quote Originally Posted by macazteeg View Post
    Welcome bro!! I got lots of it, just say if you need some
    Okay and thanks.

    I have one for you.

    What is your approach as a coach to a group of about 10 young teenagers who are just starting out on learning to play badminton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macazteeg View Post
    I hope what you mean by having a person with great psych or weak psych is the mental toughness of a person. That is how a person reacts on pressure especially during sporting competitions. Like when a person is under pressure, on how he/she will react, either to be challenged by the situation and do whatever it takes to get out of that situation, or to just give up.

    In elite sporting competition, this is what separates a winner from a loser, they may have the same amount or intensity in training, or even if a person do a higher intensity of training, it will be useless if your not mentally tough. "Sooner or later, the person who wins, is the one who thinks he can", this quote was from the greatest boxer of all time, Muhammad Ali.

    In psychology we have a theory called tabula rasa, or clean slate. That is, when a person is born, he/ she is like a clean bond paper with no marks on it. What im saying is, being mentally tough is learned, your not born with it, its just a matter of choice, to give up or not to. This choice can be motivated by the factors around you, especially the crowd.

    To answer you first question, again being mentally tough is not hereditary, its a matter of choice which depends on external factors or your past experiences. But yes, being mentally tough can be learned, any behavior can be learned or manipulated, as in "any". It's just a matter of "who" are "what". Who, who are the people that can give you motivation? It maybe your coach, my coach used to be a very good motivator, and my coach is my dad. Or it maybe people in the crowd, like chinese people in sporting events shouting "jia you!!" (more oil). And what in terms of What are your goals, if you want an Olympic gold medal, go get it, dont let anyone stop you, which is in reality the only thing that can stop you is yourself. Being mentally tough or having a good psych can be trained, remember, its just a matter of "who are the people who can train you or motivate you" and to always remember "what are your goals".
    thx for your reply.
    Although i don't have the thorough training in psychology as u do, i do not believe or buy the theory tabula rasa, that everyone start with an equal clean slate, no way jose We r all born with different abilities and attributes. We humans don't asexually reproduce ourself, therefore, gene permutation and diversify exist and is the strength of our human race.

    Yes, i do agree with your part that mental toughness is largely shaped after birth. HOWEVER, if one is dealt with a good set of genes at birth, traits that are desirable can be learned faster or ahead of others who were dealt with poorer genes of that particular trait ( i don't mean poor genes equal to a dumb person, i mean on a particular trait). Again i stress that i have no psychology training but i do believe strongly that the so called mental toughness is not 100% mentally driven but rather is driven by 2 forces, mental being one of them. Here is where a branch of science that man called human psychology (not a science by my standard) fail to capture the full essence of a man's drive. Of course, i admit i never studied psychology, there might be explanation or extra information on this subject that i haven't encountered yet.
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    Welcome to BC Macazteeg.

    Here's one, what's your analysis and approach...

    You have a 12 year old male student who:

    - has natural abilities for badminton aka diamond on the rough
    - loves to play badminton and often wins against kids of simular age
    - a constant talker and often interrupts/chats during the demonstrations
    - listens for 2 minutes, then back to old self
    - when one-on-one, will grasp the concept and technique very quickly and does it well, but after 1 minute, goes back to the old style or don't bother trying

    Would you take this student further into the sport of badminton? and how would you approach this?

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    thx for your reply.
    Although i don't have the thorough training in psychology as u do, i do not believe or buy the theory tabula rasa, that everyone start with an equal clean slate, no way jose We r all born with different abilities and attributes. We humans don't asexually reproduce ourself, therefore, gene permutation and diversify exist and is the strength of our human race.

    Yes, i do agree with your part that mental toughness is largely shaped after birth. HOWEVER, if one is dealt with a good set of genes at birth, traits that are desirable can be learned faster or ahead of others who were dealt with poorer genes of that particular trait ( i don't mean poor genes equal to a dumb person, i mean on a particular trait). Again i stress that i have no psychology training but i do believe strongly that the so called mental toughness is not 100% mentally driven but rather is driven by 2 forces, mental being one of them. Here is where a branch of science that man called human psychology (not a science by my standard) fail to capture the full essence of a man's drive. Of course, i admit i never studied psychology, there might be explanation or extra information on this subject that i haven't encountered yet.
    Anyway thanks also for your opinion bro! I may have studied psychology but I cannot say that I'm 100% with regards to the theories, their theories by the way it's up to you whether to believe it or not, Thanks for the insight, I learned something from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Okay and thanks.

    I have one for you.

    What is your approach as a coach to a group of about 10 young teenagers who are just starting out on learning to play badminton?
    As a coach, I would start them out with simple concepts in Badminton, that is, if they really want to be good, to follow two basic concepts:

    1. Never Let the shuttlecock get passed you, and
    2. Return each and every shot in whatever way you can

    With these simple instructions they can develop different traits like having a never say die attitude on court, persistency and perseverance and other positive attitudes that will serve as the foundation for them to be good.
    One thing you should know is that teenage athletes are mostly the hardest to train, because one attitude most of them have sometimes is to think that they are perfect, thus getting mad at them or scolding them will just make a certain situation worst, instead give certain rewards or punishments which will make their game better. Ex. Instead of scolding them on court, make them do additional shuttleruns, sit ups and other drills, enough to make them realize that every wrong move they make will have a certain consequence, specially on court. Again, with players who are just starting out to play badminton, as a coach you have to create a good foundation for the players to excel with the sport, like the early stages of life, these are the most delicate part for this will determine whatever attitude they will have for the rest of the playing lives, this will either break them, make them quit, or make them, make them play better and excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break-My-String View Post
    Welcome to BC Macazteeg.

    Here's one, what's your analysis and approach...

    You have a 12 year old male student who:

    - has natural abilities for badminton aka diamond on the rough
    - loves to play badminton and often wins against kids of simular age
    - a constant talker and often interrupts/chats during the demonstrations
    - listens for 2 minutes, then back to old self
    - when one-on-one, will grasp the concept and technique very quickly and does it well, but after 1 minute, goes back to the old style or don't bother trying

    Would you take this student further into the sport of badminton? and how would you approach this?

    Cheers!
    Depends of course on the kid, if the kid wants to train more, good, if he decides to quit, the you got nothing to do with that. but as you have said, the kid loves to play, so taking that statement, i'll be talking from a standpoint in which the kid loves to play.

    Actually that motivation is enough for him to keep on training, keep on playing and probably excel on the sport. It's just a matter of getting the right responses you want at the time, as i've said before, behavior can be controlled or manipulated with the use of the proper stimulus to create the needed response. It's just like training a dog how to swim, dogs are natural swimmers, but what you want them to do is to swim when you want them to. You do this by giving them food or a good belly rub after they swim. Same theory applies to humans, you must give rewards (in psychology we call it reinforcments) when certain responses are maid. For example, giving a simple "good job!" or a tap on the shoulder will do. Like when he grasps concepts he had learned from one on one training, capitalize on the proper response by giving good feedback. Its just a matter of finding the right reward, or reinforcement in each proper response that the kid gives. This way he'll be motivated to train even harder. Like "do ten backhand serves, do it correctly and i'll give you ten bucks". Always remember to just give rewards or reinforcments with good responses that are made, or else you will be reinforcing the wrong once. Never get mad at the kid or same thing happens, you'll be getting the wrong responses and it will be a never ending cycle.

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    Congratulations on finishing your degree

    So where's the grad party?

    You're most welcome to celebrate it in our court.

    I hope we get to play.

    Here's my question: What's the best way to psych your opponent out?
    What's the most effective way to distract you opponents without breaking the rules?

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