Ciputra Hanoi Vietnam International Challenge 2009, 21st to 26th April

**Jagdpanther** · 04-02-2009, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

dont worry my friend,mas didnt send much player/pair to vietnam.last year runner up cwf will not go and so as the finalist in xd:lim/ng,woon/tan,as for lydia,not sure yet.
as far as i know,we will only send 2 xd pairs....

BAM reduce power in MS, WS, WD, and XD, and send 20 MD pairs instead?

**eaglehelang** · 04-02-2009, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Jagdpanther

BAM reduce power in MS, WS, WD, and XD, and send 20 MD pairs instead?

Nahh, elit back-up/back-up already going for BAC/BAC in Korea. And the juniors are preparing for AJC. So, what's left are the in-betweeners.

**Krisna** · 04-03-2009, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

as far as i know,we will only send 2 xd pairs....

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

elit back-up/back-up already going for BAC/BAC in Korea. And the juniors are preparing for AJC. So, what's left are the in-betweeners.

Then INA or THA or TPE or JPN or SIN shall devide the spoils of the Vietnam Challenge!!!

Maybe MS will go to Nguyen, but the other categories should be owned by non-Vietnam competitors...

For now, with no clear knowledge of the other nation's participatioan, I expect MD and XD titles will most likely go to INA... WS will go to INA too if no strong competitors from THA or JPN or SIN appears... WD, wide open...

**limsy** · 04-03-2009, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Krisna

Then INA or THA or TPE or JPN or SIN shall devide the spoils of the Vietnam Challenge!!!

Maybe MS will go to Nguyen, but the other categories should be owned by non-Vietnam competitors...

For now, with no clear knowledge of the other nation's participatioan, I expect MD and XD titles will most likely go to INA... WS will go to INA too if no strong competitors from THA or JPN or SIN appears... WD, wide open...

still not sure if lydia will go or not,most probably no.
will try to ask my thailand friend(player) about their entries.
for sg,no connection there,sorry

chinese taipei?

maybe will have(connection),after few years

**Sandy** · 04-03-2009, 02:05 AM

Totally different squad of Djarum to Thailand International Series

MS
1. Andreas Adityawarman
2. Riyanto Subagja

WS
1. Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari
2. Febby Angguni
3. Ana Rovita

MD
1. M. Ulinnuha/ Berry Angriawan
2. Didit Juang/ Seiko Wahyu

WD
1. Jenna Gozali/ Rufikha Olivta
2. Delis Yuliana/ Yayu Rahayu

XD
1. M. Ulinnuha/ Jenna Gozali
2. Didit Juang/ Yayu Rahayu
3. Berry Angriawan/ Delis Yuliana

**Jagdpanther** · 04-03-2009, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

Nahh, elit back-up/back-up already going for BAC/BAC in Korea. And the juniors are preparing for AJC. So, what's left are the in-betweeners.

Oh, thanks for the info. Though, honestly, I still don't understand about elite back-up and back-up things.
I suspect they're just fancy words for 2nd and 3rd stringers, respectively?

**limsy** · 04-03-2009, 07:48 AM

i think it is 99.99% comfirmed that all the winner of 2008 vietnam international challenge from mas will not go vietnam to defend their title....

**eaglehelang** · 04-03-2009, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Jagdpanther

Oh, thanks for the info. Though, honestly, I still don't understand about elite back-up and back-up things.
I suspect they're just fancy words for 2nd and 3rd stringers, respectively?

Yup, pretty much

. Elit back up = TCS, CWF,Liew Daren, Arif, Lydia Cheah, Julia Wong. Back up = CKB, Lim fang yang, etc.
MD = the older ones = elit back up, the younger ones like Mak, Teo KS, Voluntus are back up, differentiated more by age.
WD = only WPT/CEH are in elit, the rest are in one lump = WKW, Goh LY, Ng HL, Chong SC & recent addition of Vivian Ho. XD : not much difference, since many still experimenting.

**limsy** · 04-03-2009, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

Yup, pretty much

. Elit back up = TCS, CWF,Liew Daren, Arif, Lydia Cheah, Julia Wong. Back up = CKB, Lim fang yang, etc.
MD = the older ones = elit back up, the younger ones like Mak, Teo KS, Voluntus are back up, differentiated more by age.
WD = only WPT/CEH are in elit, the rest are in one lump = WKW, Goh LY, Ng HL, Chong SC & recent addition of Vivian Ho. XD : not much difference, since many still experimenting.

actually,there are more than what u list.
those not famous+not much good result player is still under training....

**limsy** · 04-05-2009, 05:22 AM

ok,i have try my best to get list from thailand.
but i only have the ws list

here it is:
ratchanok intanon(player to watch in future,she already able to beat porntip

and she just 14

imagine tat)
chanida
nichaon
sapsilee

**huangkwokhau** · 04-13-2009, 08:23 AM

Entry List from Vietnam Badminton Association...

**huangkwokhau** · 04-13-2009, 08:24 AM

Surprised that Pakkawat is still playing...been told that he retired...again Nigerian players.....dont think they will show up..

**limsy** · 04-13-2009, 11:06 AM

haha,thanks hauge^^
ya
he still playing.been informed that he will play but forget to say it here.sorry

**badadum** · 04-13-2009, 06:39 PM

Fran/Rizal??? Fran/Pia???
What the......

**huangkwokhau** · 04-13-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by badadum

Fran/Rizal??? Fran/Pia???
What the......

Frans/Pia ismore likely permanent in XD...Rizal/Frans is just trying out while they are there.
Also debby/Pia...nto sure if it can be permanent as both are playing XD also unless they win this tourney........

**Sandy** · 04-13-2009, 07:52 PM

so far, no any info about some tourney in BAC website ?

Why BAC website is worst and lazy to update any info compare the others ?

European allways post M/Q list, Draw on time, Pan American updated the results when finish in a day, even Africa Confederation's website still better than BAC website.

**Krisna** · 04-13-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by huangkwokhau

Frans/Pia ismore likely permanent in XD...Rizal/Frans is just trying out while they are there.
Also debby/Pia...nto sure if it can be permanent as both are playing XD also unless they win this tourney........

I heard from the National Team people that Fran-Pia has a good playing chemestry...

Good for them...

Originally Posted by Sandy

so far, no any info about some tourney in BAC website ?

Why BAC website is worst and lazy to update any info compare the others ?

European allways post M/Q list, Draw on time, Pan American updated the results when finish in a day, even Africa Confederation's website still better than BAC website.

I suppose they don't get enough attention from Pak Sutiyoso, the BAC head, who is working on becoming the next President of Indonesia.

As for my prediction of this Vietnam Challenge:
INA will take all 3 titles in MD, WD, and XD. INA just got too much firepower in the doubles sector this time around. Unfortunately, due to the lack of rankings of our 5 XD, I am afraid that [even with the 'national separation' rule in place], some of our XDs have to fight a forced 'civil war' in the earlier rounds...

MS will be the hardest to grab because Nguyen, Andrew Smith, Hu Yun, Wong Ki Wong, Kashap, Roslin Hasyim, and the MAS Juniors are there... WS will be up for grab between INA and JPN... I expect Kaori vs. Febe in the finals... But we will see...

Hopefully, we will see a draw where the Japanese ladies have to get through our Srikandis first. Nana, Fira, Aprillia, and Febe can give problems for the players at the level of Uchida, Kaori etc.