Ciputra Hanoi Vietnam International Challenge 2009, 21st to 26th April

**Sandy** · 03-30-2009, 04:56 AM

Djarum will send players :

MS :
1. Dyonisius Hayom Rumbaka
2. Bandar Sigit Pamungkas

WS :
1. Maria Febe Kusumastuti
2. Fransiska Ratnasari
3. Maria Elfira Christina

**suetyan** · 03-30-2009, 05:21 AM

Indonesia has so many WS called Maria

**huangkwokhau** · 03-30-2009, 09:02 AM

It seems our INA company sponsoring Vietnam tournament..why not in INA???

**george@chongwei** · 03-31-2009, 01:31 AM

any mas players involve?

**Krisna** · 03-31-2009, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by huangkwokhau

It seems our INA company sponsoring Vietnam tournament..why not in INA???

Maybe if BWF will allow one more International Series/Challenge in INA, Pak Ciputra will sponsor it...

As for why in Hanoi? Because Pak Ciputra has a real-estate development project there... called: "Ciputra".

**Krisna** · 03-31-2009, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by suetyan

Indonesia has so many WS called Maria

true...!
Maria Kristin
Maria Febe
Maria Elfira
Maria Fransisca (WD Uber Cup team 1980s)
Note: Maria is usually their Catholic-baptized name...

China, on the other hand has a lot of Chen-s:
Chen Hong
Chen Jin
Chen Long
Chen Yu
Chen Changjie (MS Thomas Cup team 1982)
Chen Kang (MD Thomas Cup team 1990)
Chen Hongyong (MD Thomas Cup team 1990)
Note: China just have many people with the Chen surname, I guess...

**KlasseE** · 03-31-2009, 07:18 AM

lots of Wong from Malaysian camp:
Wong Choong Hann
Wong Mew Choo
Wong Pei Tty
Wong Julia
Wong Beryno
Wong Tat Meng

**limsy** · 03-31-2009, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

any mas players involve?

yes...but less than last year....so...many player wont go vietnam to defend their ranking points....we will not have a repeat of winning 3 titles again....

**Sandy** · 04-01-2009, 08:36 PM

List of Djarum players (Club & Pelatnas, DJM noted)

MS
1. Dyonisius Hayom Rumbaka (DJM)
2. Bandar Sigit Pamungkas (DJM)
3. Nugroho Andi Saputro (DJM)

WS
1. Maria Febe Kusumastuti (DJM)
2. Fransiska Ratnasari (DJM)
3. Maria Elfira Christina (DJM)

MD
1. Fernando Kurniawan(DJM) / Lingga Lie(DJM)
2. Afiat Yuris Wirawan (DJM)/ Wifqi Widarto (DJM)
3. Fran Kurniawan (DJM)/ Muhammad Rijal (DJM)

WD
1. Anneke Feinya Agustine/ Annisa Wahyuni (DJM)
2. Keshya Nurvita Hanadia/ Komala Dewi (DJM)
3. Pia Zebadiah Bernadet/ Debby Susanto (DJM)

XD
1. Fran Kurniawan (DJM)/ Pia Zebadiah Bernadet
2. Muhammad Rijal (DJM)/ Debby Susanto (DJM)
3. Lingga Lie (DJM) / Kesya Nurvita Hanadia
4. Wifqi Widarto (DJM)/ Anneke Feinya Agustine

Why no Tantowi/Richi ??
it's mean Wifqi/Afiat & Kesya are officially Pelatnas players

**badMania** · 04-01-2009, 09:23 PM

Good to see Pelatnas sending their second-layer double pairs to the Vietnam Int Challenge. I guess they have to because the sponsor is Pak Ciputra

Now, I think both Fernando Kurniawan/Lingga Lie and Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan are capable of winning their first Int Challenge title. The most likely competition will be the tons of Malaysian MD pairs that are also going to compete there.

Fran Kurniawan/Pia Bernadet Zebadiah and Mohd Rijal/Debby Susanto can also be challengers for the XD title, unless there's a strong XD pair from either Taiwan or Malaysia joining the fray.

I guess Pelatnas has higher priorities for Akhmad Tantowi/Richi Puspita Dili?? But having 3 pairs capable of winning the title competing in the same tourney is not exactly a good idea either. 2 will be good to score an all-INA Final if they are put in different half of the draw.

It's also good to see Pia Bernadet Zebadiah doubling up with Debby Susanto (is it temporary???), while Komala Dewi has a new partner in Keshya Nurvita Hanadia.

It looks like the coaches are thinking of:
1. Focussing the priority pairs on only 1 discipline (eg: Kido/Hendra, Bona/Ahsan, Rian/Yoke, Nova/Butet, Devin/Lita, Nitya/Grace, Mel/Shendy, Towi/Richi).
2. For the second-layer and new pairs, see how their development will be. If Wifqi/Afiat score good results this year, they will just be concentrated on MD. Likewise for Fran/Pia and Rijal/Debby, although I think that Pia and Debby can play both WD and XD.

**badMania** · 04-01-2009, 09:30 PM

Some of the players could also be going to the Smiling Fish Thailand Int Series, like Annisa/Anneke are Keshya/Dewi. They need to have the exposure as much as they could get.

**Sandy** · 04-01-2009, 09:33 PM

I guess other Pelatnas players who will play are :

Yoga Pratama
Aprilia Yuswandari
Lindaweni Fanetri
Rizky Amelia Pradipta

Since Pak Ciputra sponsor this tournament also the owner of Jayaraya club, this club should send their players too.
They should give attention to some elite INA's junior players from Jaya Raya like Adi Pratama and Kevin Alexander/Angga Pratama.

**badMania** · 04-01-2009, 09:51 PM

We'll see.....Kevin/Angga beat Rizky/Albert in Seleknas. They could probably finish 2nd behind Rizky/Albert.

I like the fact that we have quite a number of prospects in MD:
1. Wifqi/Afiat
2. Berry/Ullin
3. Rizky/Albert
4. Kevin/Angga
5. Didit/Seiko
5. Jones/Darmiko (??? still raw though)

What abt the ex Pelatnas Pratama pairs like Syahmie Syarif Radhitian/Adi Chrisna Wijaya? No news of them till now....quite a waste to let them rot in the club, without even participation in the local circuit.

**Sandy** · 04-01-2009, 10:07 PM

don't forget, 1st choice of INA's MD Junior is Rendy Sugiharto

Last year he paired with Ryan Agung in WJC Pune and paired with Ulinnuha in INA's U-18 squad.
Rendy, Kevin, Angga, Ulin can compete again in WJC this year, in WD only Anneke Feinya who still in age limit.

**Krisna** · 04-02-2009, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Sandy

I guess other Pelatnas players who will play are :

Yoga Pratama
Aprilia Yuswandari
Lindaweni Fanetri
Rizky Amelia Pradipta

Since Pak Ciputra sponsor this tournament also the owner of Jayaraya club, this club should send their players too.
They should give attention to some elite INA's junior players from Jaya Raya like Adi Pratama and Kevin Alexander/Angga Pratama.

I think this can be a small test on whether Pak Ciputra really has a commitment to INA badminton or not...

If he really wants to send his prospective Jaya Raya juniors there, the cost is only pocket-money for him...

But will he?

**Krisna** · 04-02-2009, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by badMania

It looks like the coaches are thinking of:
1. Focussing the priority pairs on only 1 discipline (eg: Kido/Hendra, Bona/Ahsan, Rian/Yoke, Nova/Butet, Devin/Lita, Nitya/Grace, Mel/Shendy, Towi/Richi).
2. For the second-layer and new pairs, see how their development will be. If Wifqi/Afiat score good results this year, they will just be concentrated on MD. Likewise for Fran/Pia and Rijal/Debby, although I think that Pia and Debby can play both WD and XD.

You know, I think you are basically right...

I also agree on not using Alfiat in XD... He's not as good as Wifqi in playing XD...

**limsy** · 04-02-2009, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by badMania

Good to see Pelatnas sending their second-layer double pairs to the Vietnam Int Challenge. I guess they have to because the sponsor is Pak Ciputra

Now, I think both Fernando Kurniawan/Lingga Lie and Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan are capable of winning their first Int Challenge title. The most likely competition will be the tons of Malaysian MD pairs that are also going to compete there.

Fran Kurniawan/Pia Bernadet Zebadiah and Mohd Rijal/Debby Susanto can also be challengers for the XD title, unless there's a strong XD pair from either Taiwan or Malaysia joining the fray.

I guess Pelatnas has higher priorities for Akhmad Tantowi/Richi Puspita Dili?? But having 3 pairs capable of winning the title competing in the same tourney is not exactly a good idea either. 2 will be good to score an all-INA Final if they are put in different half of the draw.

It's also good to see Pia Bernadet Zebadiah doubling up with Debby Susanto (is it temporary???), while Komala Dewi has a new partner in Keshya Nurvita Hanadia.

It looks like the coaches are thinking of:
1. Focussing the priority pairs on only 1 discipline (eg: Kido/Hendra, Bona/Ahsan, Rian/Yoke, Nova/Butet, Devin/Lita, Nitya/Grace, Mel/Shendy, Towi/Richi).
2. For the second-layer and new pairs, see how their development will be. If Wifqi/Afiat score good results this year, they will just be concentrated on MD. Likewise for Fran/Pia and Rijal/Debby, although I think that Pia and Debby can play both WD and XD.

dont worry my friend,mas didnt send much player/pair to vietnam.last year runner up cwf will not go and so as the finalist in xd:lim/ng,woon/tan,as for lydia,not sure yet.
as far as i know,we will only send 2 xd pairs....