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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner18 View Post
    Hi,

    I would like to purchase this machine, can someone provide me with a link. I am in Canada. Thanks for the great review.
    If you don't have to have exactly ASE, you can contact aefsports.com to order a similar or other machines. They accept Paypal and will mail it to you.

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    What's the use of the diablo on the WISE 2086?

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    One of the members (ASE user) suggested to show the pictures in this thread too.
    Sorry for cross-post, or rather "cross-pictures".

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    What is the difference between the Alpha and the Pro's Pro Shuttle express?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbswansea View Post
    What is the difference between the Alpha and the Pro's Pro Shuttle express?
    Pro's Pro has a hold down clamp for 12 and 6'oclock positions vs none for the Alpha (& Fleet in above picture). I believe AEF makes both types. Hi-Qua's version is similar to the Pro's Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthHowie View Post
    Pro's Pro has a hold down clamp for 12 and 6'oclock positions vs none for the Alpha (& Fleet in above picture). I believe AEF makes both types. Hi-Qua's version is similar to the Pro's Pro.
    So the Pro's Pro is as good as the Alpha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbswansea View Post
    So the Pro's Pro is as good as the Alpha?
    No. The ASE is better. I'm not sure if they still make that machine though, if they do, it's pretty damn hard to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yan.v View Post
    No. The ASE is better. I'm not sure if they still make that machine though, if they do, it's pretty damn hard to find.
    In what way is it better?

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    The main difference is the clamp down system. It makes it so it takes more time to clamp your racket and also often gets in the way for the top cross strings.

    There are also a couple more differences like the rails being of different length (I don't remember the other ones), but they're not that big of a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yan.v View Post
    The main difference is the clamp down system. It makes it so it takes more time to clamp your racket and also often gets in the way for the top cross strings.

    There are also a couple more differences like the rails being of different length (I don't remember the other ones), but they're not that big of a deal.
    So for a beginner doing it for his own rackets, it would do the job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbswansea View Post
    So for a beginner doing it for his own rackets, it would do the job?
    Yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by yan.v View Post
    Yep

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    Thanks, just need to convince wifey now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbswansea View Post
    Thanks, just need to convince wifey now.
    Just remember that you need to calibrate the tensioner FIRST before you start trying out the machine!

    A fish scale should suffice.

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    Is it normal for me to have to calibrate my PPSE tensioner every day?
    I will string at 25 x 28 lbs on day and drop the tension to the minimum to save the life of the spring after I'm done. The next day, the tension of 25 lbs reads 29lbs on my electronic fish scale and I have to calibrate again.

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    actually i've been thinking of getting the AEF with the handcrank, is it a problem if the distance between the "crank" and the racquet is nearer?

    it seems that if the crank/tensioner is nearer the racquet at the tension specified, the racquet seems to be strung with a higher tension than when the tensioner is far away from the racquet.

    since its for my own usage and not for mass stringing for others, would you recommend me to go electronic or would i become easily frustrated with cranking? i've seen some girls working at a local sports shop happily cranking

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    Hi Kwun and all other stringers,
    thank you for the excelent review and the individual ideas.

    I have the Pros Pro Shuttle Express since 4,5 years, and am happy with it.
    Had problems with some mechanical parts over the years but get them repaired by myself.

    Have some questions for your changes:
    What is the advantage of the wase vs. crank in your eyes?
    a) It needs electrical connection everywhere you wish to string, or has it an accu?
    b) I see no speed advantage in pushing a knob vs. rotate the crank one round.
    c) Is the tension exacter if both are calibrated?

    Wise + Shuttle Express seams expensiv vs. only Shuttle Express. So in my opinion it is only worth, if it has some advanteges, wich i donīt see at the moment.
    Would be nice, if someone can explain.

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    www.badminton-tips.de/en (english)

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    There is plenty of information about crank vs electronic everywhere on the forums, but here's a non exhaustive summary:

    1) Electronic machines are faster
    2) Electronic machines are constant pull machines, which means more precise tension and less tension loss
    3) Electronic machines like the Wise have pre-stretch options, which helps stringbeds lose less tension over time
    4) The wise autocalibrates itself every start up. I haven't found my wise to be decalibrated in YEARS. The tension is always right on the spot

    There is much more information in this thread:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...a-Tennis-Head)

    If price is an issue, just charge 1 or 2 more euros per string job and you'll recover fast. If people complain, just tell them it is because the quality of the string job is now better. If they don't care about quality, just buy some strings that will cost you 1-2 less euros like the HiQua strings for those people. It will cost them the same as before and they don't care about their strings anyways.

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