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    Thumbs up LCW in Year 2011: 15 tournaments played (complied by limsy)

    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Well I have taken a look at your #1 post and I found nothing concrete to substantiate your claim.

    To claim that "China is no longer interested to have Lin Dan to regain his World No.1 position". " does not tally with what LD has been dishing out whenever he meets LCW.

    LD wins most of the time! And he even beats his teammate CL lately to try to regain his WR1 standing.

    As I've said, LCW's position is now rather "precipitous" as he could fall suddenly not only to LD but to CL as well.
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    I am not saying that LCW is better than LD, or LD is better than LCW. I am saying that LCW is interested in staying as World No.1, but LD is not.

    Only hours ago, limsy posted some statistics for LCW (LCW in Year 2011: 15 tournaments played);

    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    match won(set won-set lost) 66(132-3)
    match lost(set won-set lost) 7(5-14)
    retired 0
    walkover(to) 1(suppanyu)
    most point earned in a match 60
    most point conceded in a match(to) 64(lin dan)
    total point earned in 2011 3157
    average point earned per match 43.18
    total point conceded in 2011 2200
    average point conceded per match 30.1
    longest duration on court(minutes,to) 84(lin dan)
    shortest duration on court(minutes,to) 20(park sung hwan)
    total duration on court in 2011 2815
    average duration per match on court(minutes) 38.56
    lowest point conceded in one set(to)
    5(park sung hwan,world championship)
    lowest point conceded in one match(to) 15(hu yun:mas super series;verma:india super series;park sung hwan:world championship)


    elaboration
    1,lcw only lost 3 set out of 66 matches he won.
    2,lcw won one set in 5 out of 7 matches he lost.
    3,lcw opponent only get 15 point per set averagely.

    title won:
    2010 ssmf
    2011 mas ss
    2011 ae pss
    2011 ind ss
    2011 mas gp gold
    2011 ina pss
    2011 french ss

    runner up:
    2011 korea pss
    2011 worlc championship
    2011 japan ss
    2011 denmark ss

    p/s:
    1,will do one for lin dan after he finish all the matches in ssmf 2011
    2,please check if i did any mistake
    Just wait for limsy's data on Lin Dan (especially on the walkovers Lin Dan had given). The many walkovers that Lin Dan had given should tell us something.
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    well
    i have ready with lin dan statistic,just to add on the semi final and final data

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    Well LD has just beaten LCW's semifinals conqueror, CL, in the just concluded SS Finals in Luizhou. LD will enjoy massive points from this win so too will CL add more to his WR points. LCW will have less.

    Is LD interested to regain his WR1 position? Or is it up to his boss? Time will tell before LOG 2012.

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    massive point or not,still lin dan unable to overtake lcw
    unless ld won every tournament from korea,mas,all england,india
    but still i not sure if he can overtake lcw

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    after the SSF, LCW is about 3500 ahead of LD. As they both played more than 10 t'ments, points gain from now on can only to replace the 11th highest points.
    LD did joked about that when asked by reporters can be be ranked No 1 again, he said he will have a go if the sponsors put up a big enough bonus.
    as for olympics points, both LD and CL will be top 3 no matter what, and will be seeded on different halves anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    well
    i have ready with lin dan statistic,just to add on the semi final and final data
    c'mon lim, put your skates on. i like to combine yours and the dollars charts i just created to get some interesting reading.
    Last edited by AlanY; 12-18-2011 at 05:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    c'mon lim, put your skates on. i like to combine yours and the dollars charts i just created to get some interesting reading.
    just comeback from dinner
    i will put it here in 10 muntes
    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    massive point or not,still lin dan unable to overtake lcw
    unless ld won every tournament from korea,mas,all england,india
    but still i not sure if he can overtake lcw
    Don't forget we're talking about just before LOG 2012 and that means many more months to go. In any case LCW's lead has just been reduced to about 3,500 points with the SSF win as pointed out by Alan.

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    I was thinking if it is possible LYB would wish LD and CL to be WR 1 and 2 and CJ WR4 so that China will have a commanding presence at LOG 2012 and their players will have a more favorable draw. Haha

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    player lin dan lee chong wei
    match won(set won-set lost) 62(124-18) 66(132-3)
    match lost(set won-set lost) 4(1-8) 7(5-14)
    retired 1(23-25,15-18,tago) 0
    walkover(to) 3(chen jin,chen long) 1(suppanyu)
    most point earned in a match 64 60
    most point conceded in a match(to) 59(wong wing ki) 64(lin dan)
    total point earned in 2011 3143 3157
    average point earned per match 47.6 43.18
    total point conceded in 2011 2210 2200
    average point conceded per match 33.48 30.1
    longest duration on court(minutes,to) 85(chen jin) 84(lin dan)
    shortest duration on court(minutes,to) 17(amir) 20(park sung hwan)
    total duration on court in 2011 3152 2815
    average duration per match on court(minutes) 47.76 38.56
    lowest point conceded in one set(to) 4(amir in badminton asia championship) 5(park sung hwan,world championship)
    lowest point conceded in one match(to) 11(amir in badminton asia championship) 15(hu yun:mas super series;verma:india super series;park sung hwan:world championship)

    in additian
    player lin dan lee chong wei
    total win-lost(set won-set lost) 62-4(125-26) 66-7(137-17)

    1st,lin dan played 18 rubber game where he won while lcw only played 3
    2nd,lin dan stayed on court 9 minutes more than lcw per match
    3rd,lcw played 7 matches more than lin dan but still did better in point scored,point conceded and duration on court

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Don't forget we're talking about just before LOG 2012 and that means many more months to go. In any case LCW's lead has just been reduced to about 3,500 points with the SSF win as pointed out by Alan.
    how much u want to bet?uncle loh?hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    how much u want to bet?uncle loh?hehe
    Are you working already?

    If not I don't want to take away your pocket money!

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    i am confident that i wont lost any
    wakakaka
    maybe satay will do,hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    i am confident that i wont lost any
    wakakaka
    maybe satay will do,hehe
    Remember in just this SSF tournament alone, LD is able to reduce his deficit from 10,500 points to 3,500 ( assuming AlanY's calculation is correct). If LD were to play in as many tournaments as LCW, who will likely win more times? If LD and LCW were to meet in as many tournaments henceforth, who will likely win more times judging by their present form? How long can LD's 3,500 point deficit last? Not very long unless LCW can beat LD more times.
    Last edited by Loh; 12-18-2011 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Remember in just this SSF tournament alone, LD is able to reduce his deficit from 10,500 points to 3,500 ( assuming AlanY's calculation is correct). If LD were to play in as many tournaments as LCW, who will likely win more times? If LD and LCW were to meet in as many tournaments henceforth, who will likely win more times judging by their present form? How long can LD's 3,500 point deficit last? Not very long unless LCW can beat LD more times.
    uncle loh,lin dan played same number of tournament(if not more) with lcw
    and lcw is actually one tournament short as he walkover in macau
    and lin dan still failed to overtake lin dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Remember in just this SSF tournament alone, LD us able to reduce his deficit from 10,500 points to 3,500 ( assuming Alany calculation is correct). If LD were to play in as many tournaments as LCW, who will likely win more times? If LD and LCW were to meet in as many tournaments henceforth, who will likely win more times judging by their form? How long can the 3,500 point deficit last?
    ok, lets me have a go of the numbers.
    assuming LCW and LD share the 1st and 2nd for the forecoming MO and KO, LCW got MO and LD got KO, quite likely i think if we forget CL for now.

    the points looks like this;

    1 MAS Lee Chong Wei 91147
    2 CHN Lin Dan 90516

    lets assume they share the next 2 t'ments as well, again forget about CL (he is going to love me for this);
    LCW win the AE and LD get the Ind Open;

    the final table will be;

    1 CHN Lin Dan 96226 15
    2 MAS Lee Chong Wei 94547 14

    i let you guys to work out the odds and how many satay or whatever to play for.

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    Now Alan, don't scare limsy and perhaps Chris as well. And dont hide CL who can do a lot of damage to LCW as well as in this SSF.

    BTW Alan are you staying in London?

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