Will Lee Chong Wei remain World No.1 until the 2012 OG?

[Dato A]

yep, maybe that's just your opinion.
However, others opinion might differ from yours of course

I am waiting for somebody that is dare to make a statement that DLCW is the best ms badminton player in the world currently.

[s3160717]

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Lee Chong Wei to remain as World No.1 until the 2012 Olympic Games

Greetings,

From we what have witnessed recently, China is no longer interested to have Lin Dan to regain his World No.1 position.

As disappointed as most of us BCers are (wanting to watch matches between Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan), we might only get to watch them play each other in fewer occasions from now on.

IMHO, Lee Chong Wei could remain as World No.1 until he retires after the 2012 Olympic Games.

This thread is created to monitor players who could come forward to challenge Lee Chong Wei.

Cheers... chris-ccc

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I think it would be nobody if LinDan exchanged to new career "mendouble"

[chris-ccc]

Maybe our chris@ccc struck a wager with his buddies on this? That's why he started the thread?

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eaglehelang ... No, it's not a wager. Some of my buddies do not understand how the World Ranking works.

Some think that if a player is ranked World No.1, then that player must be the most skillful player in the world. Of course, this is not always true.

And some think that if a player is the best player in the world, then that player will be ranked World No.1. Of course this is also not true.

Many do not know that a player's position is determined by just adding their points earned at tournaments. And points are earned when the player wins matches.

On this note, let's have a look at the points earned by some of the players;
(Ranked as at 9-April-2009)
1. Lee Chong Wei ............. 84,179
2. Lin Dan ........................ 66,940
3. Chen Jin ...................... 65,804
4. Peter Gade .................. 64,683
5. Sony Kuncoro .............. 60,927
6. Taufik Hidayat ............. 58,943
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100. Chen Long ............... 13,170

In previous posts, it was said that Lin Dan is no longer interested in regaining the No.1 position. Perhaps the current big difference in points between him and Lee Chong Wei has discouraged him from making a chase.

Comments were also made that injuries could prevent Lee Chong Wei from participating in more tournaments. This is true. If matches are not played, no points can be earned.

But it looks like Lee Chong Wei is OK at the moment (let's forget the food poisoning incidence). He appears to be determined to surge further ahead. He is saying to the others "Catch me if you can".
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[cooler]

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On this note, let's have a look at the points earned by some of the players;
(Ranked as at 9-April-2009)
1. Lee Chong Wei ............. 84,179
2. Lin Dan ........................ 66,940
3. Chen Jin ...................... 65,804
4. Peter Gade .................. 64,683
5. Sony Kuncoro .............. 60,927
6. Taufik Hidayat ............. 58,943
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100. Chen Long ............... 13,170

In previous posts, it was said that Lin Dan is no longer interested in regaining the No.1 position. Perhaps the current big difference in points between him and Lee Chong Wei has discouraged him from making a chase.

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i can assure that is not LD's reason for not regaining #1.

[Oldhand]

Being No.2 works better for Lin Dan in any tournament that has Lee Chong Wei too.

If Lin Dan is No.1 and Lee Chong Wei is No.2, the No.3 will always be in Lin Dan's half of the draw. That is not very advantageous to Team China, is it?

If Lee Chong Wei is No.1 and Lin Dan is No.2, the No.3 goes to Chong Wei's half. That makes the route to the final more hazardous for Chong Wei and also allows Lin Dan to meet No.4 or No.5 (depending on who is competing in that tourney).

If I were Li Yongbo, I would keep Lin Dan lower in the ranking.
After all, rankings don't win the Olympic Gold or the All England!

[paulstevo]

i can assure that is not LD's reason for not regaining #1.

Well what is the reason as it seems pretty strange to not try and catch up..
Do you not think he owes it to all the fans worldwide to attempt to catch up?

[bananakid]

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eaglehelang ... No, it's not a wager. Some of my buddies do not understand how the World Ranking works.

Some think that if a player is ranked World No.1, then that player must be the most skillful player in the world. Of course, this is not always true.

And some think that if a player is the best player in the world, then that player will be ranked World No.1. Of course this is also not true.

Many do not know that a player's position is determined by just adding their points earned at tournaments. And points are earned when the player wins matches.

On this note, let's have a look at the points earned by some of the players;
(Ranked as at 9-April-2009)
1. Lee Chong Wei ............. 84,179
2. Lin Dan ........................ 66,940
3. Chen Jin ...................... 65,804
4. Peter Gade .................. 64,683
5. Sony Kuncoro .............. 60,927
6. Taufik Hidayat ............. 58,943
..................................................
100. Chen Long ............... 13,170

In previous posts, it was said that Lin Dan is no longer interested in regaining the No.1 position. Perhaps the current big difference in points between him and Lee Chong Wei has discouraged him from making a chase.

Comments were also made that injuries could prevent Lee Chong Wei from participating in more tournaments. This is true. If matches are not played, no points can be earned.

But it looks like Lee Chong Wei is OK at the moment (let's forget the food poisoning incidence). He appears to be determined to surge further ahead. He is saying to the others "Catch me if you can".
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Lin Dan competed in only 8 tournaments and gained 66,940 points
while LCW competed in 10 tournaments and gained 84,179 points.

If Lin Dan competes in 2 others super series in which he did not participated in last year (eg. Singapore, and Indo) and win both of them, chances are good that he will be very close to LCW(assuming he stays the same, or gains a bit) in ranking points, if not surpass him.

9200 points for winner x2 = 18400
84,179 - 66940 = 17,239

Just the same as 2006, the reason why LCW gained his #1 spot for about 2 months was because of Lin Dan's lack of tournament participation.

Talk about "catch me if you can" LOLLLLLL... ROFL, LMAO... try telling LCW to catch up to the number of major titles won by Lin Dan instead.

To make it sound worse, even Hafiz had an All England title to show for, while LCW has nothing worthy at all. LCW should at least try to catch Hafiz first, before his fan starts to ask other pros to catch him.

[Ferrerkiko]

Lee chong wei should be beware of china latest weapon ,,, newbie Chen Long.. who eliminated him in the first round..

[Pemuda]

Are you trying to mock the ability to maintain a WR1? Why don't you do it when LD was WR1? How long was LD WR1?Are you suggesting LD's WR1 was laughable? I find this post embarrassing.Maybe it's a mod's privilege.

Can you lighten up a little? This is only a badminton forum not the UN. We are chatting about some guy in tight shorts prancing around with a badminton racquet not North Korea's long range missile tests.

[Pemuda]

Talk about "catch me if you can" LOLLLLLL... ROFL, LMAO... try telling LCW to catch up to the number of major titles won by Lin Dan instead.

To make it sound worse, even Hafiz had an All England title to show for, while LCW has nothing worthy at all. LCW should at least try to catch Hafiz first, before his fan starts to ask other pros to catch him.

You said it spot on, bro!
Its the titles that counts, major titles. And LD have loads of em' tucked away in his trophy cabinet. Forget about OG gold or WC, LCW can even muster one single AE title.

'Catch me if you can' ... I would say this is the typical Malaysia Boleh 'syiok sendiri' syndrome.

[chris-ccc]

I am waiting for somebody that is dare to make a statement that DLCW is the best ms badminton player in the world currently.

There have been many threads where we have discussed and debated on who is the best player in the world. This is not one of them.

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Please be reminded that this thread is about World Rankings. This thread is not about who is the best Badminton player in the world. Although the better players and the higher ranked players are found almost in the same subject/topic, let us talk more about their World Rankings.

Being No.2 works better for Lin Dan in any tournament that has Lee Chong Wei too.

If Lin Dan is No.1 and Lee Chong Wei is No.2, the No.3 will always be in Lin Dan's half of the draw. That is not very advantageous to Team China, is it?

If Lee Chong Wei is No.1 and Lin Dan is No.2, the No.3 goes to Chong Wei's half. That makes the route to the final more hazardous for Chong Wei and also allows Lin Dan to meet No.4 or No.5 (depending on who is competing in that tourney).

If I were Li Yongbo, I would keep Lin Dan lower in the ranking.
After all, rankings don't win the Olympic Gold or the All England!

This is true. In previous years Li Yongbo kept CHN players ranking in the World No.1 and 2 positions. It was to ensure that CHN players are seeded No.1 and 2 at tournaments, and therefore they won't meet each other before arriving at the Finals.

Now, with CHN players participating in lesser tournaments, we find them ranked lower. They are now facing each other in earlier rounds.

Let us look at Womens Singles at the 2009 Badminton Asia Championships happening today, Friday April 10.

CHN players facing each other at the WS Quarter-Finals:
* Xie Xingfang [5][CHN] -vs- [CHN] Lu Lan [2]
* Wang Lin [3][CHN] -vs- [CHN] Jiang Yanjiao

And at the Semi-Finals, it's expected that we have;
* Wang Yihan [8][CHN] -vs- [CHN] Lu Lan [2]
* Wang Lin [3][CHN] -vs- [CHN] Zhu Lin [6]

Will we see CHN No.1 and 2 at the Finals? Which is this match;
* Wang Lin [3][CHN] -vs- [CHN] Lu Lan [2]


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[robin7]

Being No.2 works better for Lin Dan in any tournament that has Lee Chong Wei too.

If Lin Dan is No.1 and Lee Chong Wei is No.2, the No.3 will always be in Lin Dan's half of the draw. That is not very advantageous to Team China, is it?

If Lee Chong Wei is No.1 and Lin Dan is No.2, the No.3 goes to Chong Wei's half. That makes the route to the final more hazardous for Chong Wei and also allows Lin Dan to meet No.4 or No.5 (depending on who is competing in that tourney).

If I were Li Yongbo, I would keep Lin Dan lower in the ranking.
After all, rankings don't win the Olympic Gold or the All England!

Are you sure about this?

WN3 being in the same half as LD is a good news to CHN, isn't it?
WN3 being in the same half as LCW is a better news to CHN, isn't it?

To me, it doesn't matter whether LD is #1 or #2 as far as CHN team is concerned.

If WN3 is in the same half as LCW, he needs to beat another CHN before the finals. Otherwise, his opponent in the finals will have a virtual walkover in the semi. To me, it's not much difference to LCW.

The answer to the thread it "possible".

But to me, LCW should keep himself in the top 2 till 2012 London OG while trying to win some majors (AE & WC).

[Athelete1234]

I dont' find CHN playing less tournaments....they just skipped the first 2 for training and the elite squad didn't attend the german open.

[pjswift]

Can you lighten up a little? This is only a badminton forum not the UN. We are chatting about some guy in tight shorts prancing around with a badminton racquet not North Korea's long range missile tests.

I forgot to elaborate why I found the drifit's post embarrassing.It's because the gist of it is rather infantile. I thought it came from you but to originate from a mod who presumably must be more mature in thinking.....

[pjswift]

Lin Dan competed in only 8 tournaments and gained 66,940 points
while LCW competed in 10 tournaments and gained 84,179 points.

If Lin Dan competes in 2 others super series in which he did not participated in last year (eg. Singapore, and Indo) and win both of them, chances are good that he will be very close to LCW(assuming he stays the same, or gains a bit) in ranking points, if not surpass him.

9200 points for winner x2 = 18400
84,179 - 66940 = 17,239

Just the same as 2006, the reason why LCW gained his #1 spot for about 2 months was because of Lin Dan's lack of tournament participation.

Talk about "catch me if you can" LOLLLLLL... ROFL, LMAO... try telling LCW to catch up to the number of major titles won by Lin Dan instead.

To make it sound worse, even Hafiz had an All England title to show for, while LCW has nothing worthy at all. LCW should at least try to catch Hafiz first, before his fan starts to ask other pros to catch him.

Well, maybe you should ask why he skipped SO and IO.Cannot be the humidity because he had played well in Singapore and Indonesia before.The crowd may not be his favourite but why should he let that stop him?Actually with TH's renewed interest and heightened motivation for badminton,TH 's heading towards WR2.
WR2 will be keenly contested first.

[pjswift]

Being No.2 works better for Lin Dan in any tournament that has Lee Chong Wei too.

If Lin Dan is No.1 and Lee Chong Wei is No.2, the No.3 will always be in Lin Dan's half of the draw. That is not very advantageous to Team China, is it?

If Lee Chong Wei is No.1 and Lin Dan is No.2, the No.3 goes to Chong Wei's half. That makes the route to the final more hazardous for Chong Wei and also allows Lin Dan to meet No.4 or No.5 (depending on who is competing in that tourney).

If I were Li Yongbo, I would keep Lin Dan lower in the ranking.
After all, rankings don't win the Olympic Gold or the All England!

Don't think the draw is fixed that way;it just happened unless you have checked that historically it's a constant.
Well, it looks like LYB is thinking what you're thinking...if LD does not turn up for SO and IO,it would indicate that LYB is keeping LD lower in the ranking for draw strategic reasons.
I doubt a lower ranking for LD will help him win more titles.

[bananakid]

Well, maybe you should ask why he skipped SO and IO.Cannot be the humidity because he had played well in Singapore and Indonesia before.The crowd may not be his favourite but why should he let that stop him?Actually with TH's renewed interest and heightened motivation for badminton,TH 's heading towards WR2.
WR2 will be keenly contested first.

You probably knew the answer, but your brain chose to hide it in a dark deep corner so the pain won't bother you very day since August 2008.

Let me do you a favor and remind you once again the simple answer of why Lin Dan skipped Singapore and INA open last year... preparing for OG08 and looked how well that worked for him, easily thrashed LCW for the gold medal with a score line of 21-12, 21-8.