04-15-2009, 08:12 AM #188
again,ours advanced english education prof.p have some problem of understanding 'closer'
we compare the SAME person to a position in different time.
example:cl is wr 120 last week and he is wr 100 this week.
so,he is closer to wr 1 compare to last week
it is unbelieveable that the prof.p in bc cant understand about the word closer
04-15-2009, 11:31 AM #189
Much before Pemuda did, I too had expressed great surprise.
See this post.
The word 'closer' doesn't ride on a simple "100 minus 1".
If it did, I'd say I'm closer to the moon each time I jump.
There's such a thing as a logical argument.
That's what this is about
04-15-2009, 11:51 AM #190
"Closer"?? "Next to"?? "Difference is smaller"??...
..wait a minute...
Since this thread basically deals with World Ranking (now and the future, 2012) and not really judging by "the best player", technically (by world ranking), Chen Long's WR to LCW's WR is "closer", "next to", "smaller in difference to last week".
Realistically though, between LCW and CL, yes, they're still a long way off (ranking and level of play).
Last edited by ctjcad; 04-15-2009 at 11:57 AM.
04-15-2009, 12:01 PM #191
I am concern that he is no ordinary junior as he had beat a WR1 when he was seeded #100++. C'mon,he's a news. We don't care if the japan's ba Ikeda Yuichi or any other unseeded players are getting closer. No one cares about their ranking.
But Chen Long's case would be different, somehow.
About having a logic argument, then it's not wise to have this argument.
But, hey..get use to it. * kkk's having the same pressure before, i hope Chen Long is capable to cope with that.
Last edited by koo_fan; 04-15-2009 at 12:09 PM.
04-15-2009, 01:00 PM #192
The next World Rankings will be released tomorrow, Thursday 16-Apr-2007
Hehehe ... We are back to English lessons again.
The word 'closer' was chosen because it was for expressing comparative degree.
Let's look at these 2 statements:
(1) We are now seeing CL making his way close to LCW
(2) We are now seeing CL making his way closer to LCW
It would be crazy to use statement (1). All BCers know that CL's and LCW's rankings are so far apart. Most would agree that we cannot say that their rankings are 'close' to each other.
IMHO, it should be appropriate to use statement (2). Although CL's ranking is far away from LCW's, CL is making progress in the right direction. Therefore, we have this statement: "CL is making his way closer and closer to LCW".
BTW, the next World Rankings will be released tomorrow, Thursday 16-Apr-2007. And we shall see how much 'closer' CL's ranking will be from LCW's.
04-15-2009, 02:30 PM #193
04-15-2009, 03:00 PM #194
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04-15-2009, 10:27 PM #197
16-Apr-2009: World Rankings List has not been updated yet
Because there is one BCer here who is always criticizing another BCer's English.
Just checked the BWF site. Today's BWF World Rankings List has not been updated yet.
04-16-2009, 02:08 AM #198
04-16-2009, 02:18 AM #199
04-16-2009, 02:22 AM #200
yes, CL got potential and every other players too.
everyone is making progress or regress. just don't panic.
04-16-2009, 03:27 AM #201
I think chris@ccc likes this Chen Long & forsees the young gun as future top player, though many argue the Chen Long arent as good as LD, CJ, BCL. But then again, which of the current batch of China MS youngsters are?
And...........chris will be happy to know Chen Long has moved up 40 placings to WR#60, ahead of the retired CHen Yu(WR#93) & Chen Hong (WR#97). WR#100 to WR#60, that's definitely more than an inch jump . But I'm sure chris already knew that from his calculations, hence his earlier excited post abt CHen Long.
Now CL need to catch up with Gong Weiji(WR#36) & Lu Yi (WR#32) 1st before moving up year by year to challenge the top guns.
Last edited by eaglehelang; 04-16-2009 at 03:33 AM.
04-16-2009, 11:38 AM #202
It great to see Taufik Hidayat now ranked as World No.5
eagle ... I only said that I Chen Long could be a future top player. It's only a 'could'. At this moment, CL's level is far below the World Top 4. Our conversation about CL only started after he defeated LCW at the 2009 India Open. I did say that CL is one of the rising stars, but I suspect it would take a long time for him to get to the top rankings. In fact, I do not expect him to overtake LCW before the 2012 OG.
Thanks for informing us about CL's latest ranking. Yes, quite a big jump to WR#60 from #100. IMHO, players like LCW, LD, TH and PG shouldn't have much problem against CL in this year, 2009.
BTW, LD is now ranked at #3, below PG at #2 (PG should be happy ) and LCW still at #1. It also great to see TH, currently at #5, moving 'very close' to CJ at #4.
Perhaps, PG could be the first to overtake LCW.
04-16-2009, 04:01 PM #203
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