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    Quote Originally Posted by Pemuda View Post
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    LCW is looking at a good 2 years left in the tank. 2 years will come and go quick. Is he going to spend the next 2 years being selective or go all out with the intention of making as much $ as possible. Personally, with BAM's incentive scheme, LCW should be making hay while the sun shines. My estimation, I think LCW is worth about plus minus RM1.5 - RM1.8 million now (from prize money, incentives, allowances, well wishers, godfather/s etc etc etc). He should take the next 2 years to triple it and then he can rest all he want.
    ..with his current knee injury and upcoming surgery, Dato LCW will definitely be put on watch by BAM and be selective in choosing which tourneys to attend in the future. I also think he is financially well secured even if he slows down in his baddy participation. Thus, his next goal, IMO, should be to focus on getting one of the major individual titles, if he can't get the 2012 OG Gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..LCW and the BAM mgt/coaching staff are recommending a less-tourneys approach more so out of necessity.
    Errr, actually it was the ...NSC, Sports Minister who made noise after WC 2009. They question why LCW, KKK/TBH participate so many tourneys just to maintain the ranking for the BAM quarterly bonus & title wins. They question why players go here there, make $$$, make $$$, but dont win major titles. They want players to focus on preparation for major titles.

    They question more on LCW cos a) he participate more than KKK/TBH (remember Rexy did not send doubles to Korea SS & China Masters) b) with KKK/TBH's inconsistency, LCW's the main hope for major titles.

    Misbun replied this before, that we cannot follow like China or LD, somewhere along the lines of competing to maintain fitness/competitiveness.

    So, with that directive from higher ups, BAM have made changes.

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    Default NSC, Sports Minister & politicians ...

    I rest my case then when it comes to us having the wrong people helming BAM. Instead of having administrators and qualified coaches who act in the best interest of the sport, we actually got a bunch of yes men who cater to the whim and fancy of politicians who know jack about the sport.

    Hopefully Samy Vellu makes a comeback into the cabinet, being the MIC all time badminton champion, I am sure he got a few good tips for LCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    Errr, actually it was the ...NSC, Sports Minister who made noise after WC 2009.
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    So, with that directive from higher ups, BAM have made changes.
    ..all of them are one and the same...
    So, yeah, their decision for Dato LCW was partially out of reaction and now it's a necessity after seeing the reality, if they want to preserve Dato LCW's career...

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    Arrow After the 2009 French Open SS Finals

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    Found this post in our 2009 French Open SS Finals thread.
    It's interesting (from now onwards)...
    Quote Originally Posted by freelast View Post

    LCW has played 15 tournaments within a year.
    TH: 13
    LD: 8

    Since the rating was calculated based on best of 10, therefore, LD's average performance was better than LCW and TH

    current BWF points:

    LCW: 87371 best 10 out of 15
    LinD: 69944 best 8 out of 8 divided by 10
    TaH: 66580 best 10 out of 13

    if we count all the tournaments they participated, the the average points will be:

    LCW: 55165 points
    LinD: 87431 points
    TaH: 51920 points

    this shows a huge lead taken by Lin Dan.

    Even Taufik H played less than LCW, but he still have lower average points per tournaments, therefore, there is no need for LCW to learn from Taufik to play less.

    It looks like Lin Dan is making a comeback, to be BWF World No.1. Most BCers would hope so, I believe.

    It's good to watch Lin Dan participating more often in tournaments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc View Post
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    Found this post in our 2009 French Open SS Finals thread.
    It's interesting (from now onwards)...

    It looks like Lin Dan is making a comeback, to be BWF World No.1. Most BCers would hope so, I believe.

    It's good to watch Lin Dan participating more often in tournaments.
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    it's only a comback for LD if u follow bwf's arithmetic

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    Arrow We can only follow BWF's arithmetic

    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post

    it's only a comback for LD if u follow bwf's arithmetic.

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    Correct. We can only follow BWF's arithmetic.

    Otherwise, anyone who is not participating in BWF's tournaments can claim to be the "World's Best Player".

    It's heard that there are better players than Lin Dan, but not able to participate in the CHN National team. Perhaps, it's just a rumor/nonsense.
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    Hi all, a question for you to ponder, does really chasing figure so impt or to be able to sustain long enough in the competition and win/defend major titles more impt?

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    Arrow Is chasing ranking points so important?

    Quote Originally Posted by loggietoh2003 View Post

    Hi all, a question for you to ponder, does really chasing figure so impt or to be able to sustain long enough in the competition and win/defend major titles more impt?

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    In competition/tournament, Badminton is organised like other sports. Let's look at some of whom who are involved;

    For players, the winning of major titles is important. These titles reflect their authority/excellence.

    For fans, the appearance of their idols in tournaments is important. Fans just love to watch their idols play. It doesn't matter if the tournaments are major or not.

    For tournament organisers, their tournaments are usually annual events (major or not). If there are more skilled players participating, bigger attendances can be drawn.

    Ranking points are awarded to participating tournament players. BWF's ranking points system is similar to those of other sports. Non-participating players (injured, resting, or absent for any other reasons) will miss out on ranking points.

    Question: Is chasing ranking points so important?
    Answer: Think how we like. It's just part of how our World Sporting Bodies rank their players.
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    Well said from chris but what about the others?

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    Arrow Most Badminton players are National players, not independent professional players

    Quote Originally Posted by loggietoh2003 View Post

    Well said from chris but what about the others?

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    As we all know, the problem is most of our Badminton players' activities depend on their National Associations' decision/jurisdiction.

    Currently, most Badminton players are National players, not independent professional players.
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    Default This thread...

    is coming to an end soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Found this post in our 2009 French Open SS Finals thread.
    It's interesting (from now onwards)...

    It looks like Lin Dan is making a comeback, to be BWF World No.1. Most BCers would hope so, I believe.

    It's good to watch Lin Dan participating more often in tournaments.
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    Cooler-Lin Dan is generous.(based on LD lose 21-4 by CJ)

    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    is coming to an end soon...
    Yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    What's there to worry about ranking? What LCW needs is a long break and he's getting one. What should be interesting is MS title outcomes in LCW's absence.
    that's what mr george chong wei needed as well, a rest since he's also not winning either. He should learn from his hero

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    Arrow Lin Dan withdrew from the 2009 Hong Kong Super Series Badminton Open

    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post

    This thread is coming to an end soon...

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    Yes, thought that Lin Dan would be taking over as World No.1 position soon. But it's not the case; Lin Dan withdrew from the 2009 Hong Kong Super Series Open, held this week, November 09-15.

    And so we are going back to Post #1:
    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post

    Lee Chong Wei to remain as World No.1 until the 2012 Olympic Games

    Greetings,

    From we what have witnessed recently, China is no longer interested to have Lin Dan to regain his World No.1 position.

    As disappointed as most of us BCers are (wanting to watch matches between Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan), we might only get to watch them play each other in fewer occasions from now on.

    IMHO, Lee Chong Wei could remain as World No.1 until he retires after the 2012 Olympic Games.

    This thread is created to monitor players who could come forward to challenge Lee Chong Wei.

    Cheers... chris-ccc


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    Quote Originally Posted by loggietoh2003 View Post
    Hi all, a question for you to ponder, does really chasing figure so impt or to be able to sustain long enough in the competition and win/defend major titles more impt?
    it's important for positioning the seeding in competitions... if your ranking is not good enough to be amongst the 8 seeds in a competition, you would end up meeting LD in Round 1 (like BCL in China Open) or Round 2 (like CL in China Open) and be outsted earliest possible even you are top 10 in the world...

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    a big no chk lcw ranking points ld wil become #1 in 2010

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