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    Arrow Lee Chong Wei will not cut down on his tournaments this year (2011)

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    Must choose, no.1 or OLYMPIC Champion, cant have both...
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    Well, Lee Chong Wei will not cut down on his tournaments. And he has confirmed it in this article.

    Source: http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/nlk123e231/Article/

    Article by K.M. BOOPATHY (On 05-Nov-2011)

    Lee Chong Wei will not cut down on his tournaments this year as he wants to have a healthy lead over his China rivals Lin Dan and Chen Long in the Olympic race.

    Chong Wei is well aware that he can no longer sustain the same level of performance without quality preparation but he wants to ensure he has sufficient ranking points to maintain his World No 1 position before playing in fewer tournaments.

    He has confirmed playing in the Hong Kong (Nov 15-20) and China (Nov 22-27) Opens and the World Super Series Finals in Liuzhou, China on Dec 14-18. The World No.1 may also compete in the Macau Open on Nov 29-Dec 4.

    "My recovery rate is not as good as a younger player like Chen Long and I have to train harder and prepare longer for main tournaments," he said yesterday.

    "I will push hard in the next few tournaments to gain more Olympic qualifying points before cutting down on tournaments,"

    "Chen Long and Lin Dan are closing the gap on the world ranking and if I can earn sufficient points in the next three or four tournaments, I can breathe easy

    "The focus next year will be on quality preparation and probably the right time to reduce on tournaments. I will play in the Malaysia and Korea Opens as well as the All England and the Thomas Cup qualifying rounds in the first four months.

    "The Thomas Cup Finals will be held in May and I could play another tournament before the Olympics in August and that will give me plenty of time to focus on my training."

    "Chen Long relies on his physical strength and it becomes difficult if my preparation is enough but I have learnt a lot from my two defeats to him.

    "The defeats are also a blessing in disguise for me as it is not all about Lin Dan but I must also be prepared for Chen Long."

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    Arrow Rankings released today - Thursday 01-Dec-2011

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    For the Thursday 27-Oct-2011 Rankings, we have;

    1. Lee Chong Wei (MAS)........99147 points (10 out of 12 tournaments)
    2. Chen Long (CHN)..............81540 points (10 out of 15 tournaments)
    3. Lin Dan (CHN)..................79906 points (10 out of 14 tournaments)
    4. Peter Gade (DEN).............75883 points (10 out of 12 tournaments)
    5. Chen Jin (CHN).................64850 points (10 out of 16 tournaments)
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    It has been more than a month ago that I last updated the rankings. Let's have a look at it again (based on the rankings released today - Thursday 01-Dec-2011).

    Source: http://bwfcontent.tournamentsoftware...0&category=472

    1. Lee Chong Wei (MAS)........99147 points (10 out of 14 tournaments)
    2. Lin Dan (CHN)..................88646 points (10 out of 15 tournaments)
    3. Chen Long (CHN)..............81690 points (10 out of 16 tournaments)
    4. Peter Gade (DEN).............75513 points (10 out of 14 tournaments)
    5. Chen Jin (CHN).................67380 points (10 out of 17 tournaments)

    Chen Jin is working very hard - with 17 tournaments played (trying to overtake Peter Gade).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    It has been more than a month ago that I last updated the rankings. Let's have a look at it again (based on the rankings released today - Thursday 01-Dec-2011).

    Source: http://bwfcontent.tournamentsoftware...0&category=472

    1. Lee Chong Wei (MAS)........99147 points (10 out of 14 tournaments)
    2. Lin Dan (CHN)..................88646 points (10 out of 15 tournaments)
    3. Chen Long (CHN)..............81690 points (10 out of 16 tournaments)
    4. Peter Gade (DEN).............75513 points (10 out of 14 tournaments)
    5. Chen Jin (CHN).................67380 points (10 out of 17 tournaments)

    Chen Jin is working very hard - with 17 tournaments played (trying to overtake Peter Gade).
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    The more interesting question seems to be:


    "Can LD replace LCW as WR1 before London Olympics 2012"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    The more interesting question seems to be:


    "Can LD replace LCW as WR1 before London Olympics 2012"?
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    We need to monitor it.

    By the time we arrive closer to the 2012 London Olympics, Chen Long might be able to topple LCW and/or LD, to become WR1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    We need to monitor it.

    By the time we arrive closer to the 2012 London Olympics, Chen Long might be able to topple LCW and/or LD, to become WR1.
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    How many satays are you prepared to put on the table?

    The fact is LD is now ahead of CL. And LD finds CL an easier opponent than LCW.

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    chris,i bet a flight ticket with u that lcw will still seeded 1st in OG 2012
    either u fly to mas or i fly to australia,how?hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    chris,i bet a flight ticket with u that lcw will still seeded 1st in OG 2012
    either u fly to mas or i fly to australia,how?hehe
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    No bet. I only said to Loh that CL MIGHT be able to topple LCW and/or LD to become WR1. For CL, I give him a 10% chance to be WR1.

    For LCW...60% chance.
    For LD......30% chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    No bet. I only said to Loh that CL MIGHT be able to topple LCW and/or LD to become WR1. For CL, I give him a 10% chance to be WR1.

    For LCW...60% chance.
    For LD......30% chance.
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    Then by your own admission CL's chance is rather poor, certainly behind LD's. But if LD continues to win tournaments his chance of overtaking LCW is very good, not 30% as suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Then by your own admission CL's chance is rather poor, certainly behind LD's. But if LD continues to win tournaments his chance of overtaking LCW is very good, not 30% as suggested.
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    Yes... I am willing to treat you with 100 sticks of satay if LD can topple LCW as WR1 before the 2012 Olympic Games. But if LCW remains as WR1, you will only need to treat me with 50 sticks of satay.
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    Default Will it be LCW or LD as WR1 during LOG 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Yes... I am willing to treat you with 100 sticks of satay if LD can topple LCW as WR1 before the 2012 Olympic Games. But if LCW remains as WR1, you will only need to treat me with 50 sticks of satay.
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    Many thanks for your offer but it is difficult to fulfill as we are not at the same place - you're in Melbourne and I'm in S'pore, unless you can find time to meet at a common venue, perhaps in London for the LOG 2012.

    I was wondering why you are so sure that LCW will remain as WR1 before LOG 2012.

    As of 8 Dec 2011, the three closest rivals, with the no. of points indicated against their names are:
    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14955

    1 MAS [MAS] LEE Chong Wei 99,147.30 Asia Malaysia
    2 CHN [CHN] LIN Dan 88,646.10 Asia China
    3 CHN [CHN] CHEN Long 81,690.00 Asia China


    Which places LD 10,501.2 points behind LCW.

    That also means LD must earn more than 10,500 points to catch up with LCW.

    Is this possible or impossible?

    Not impossible if LCW could not participate, or only able to do so in less subsequent BWF point scoring tournaments as a result of injury while LD remains fit and continues to win points.

    Now if LD wins in some majors or becomes runner-up or enters the quarters or semis, how many points can he score? And LCW was unable to win or do better than LD in these events or even worse, was eliminated in the earlier rounds.

    Here is BWF's world ranking points table:
    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=15370


    World Ranking Points Table
    Rounds BWF Events(BWF World WCH & OG) BWF Superseries Finals &
    Premier
    Super series Grand Prix Gold Grand Prix Intl Challenge
    Intl Series
    Future Series
    Winner
    12000
    11000
    9200
    7000
    5000
    4000
    2500
    1700
    Runner up
    10200
    9350
    7800
    5950
    4250
    3400
    2130
    1420
    3/4
    8400
    7700
    6420
    4900
    3500
    2800
    1750
    1170
    5/8
    6600
    6050
    5040
    3850
    2750
    2200
    1370
    920
    9/16
    4800
    4320
    3600
    2720
    1920
    1520
    920
    600
    17/32
    3000
    2660
    2220
    1670
    1170
    920
    550
    350
    33/64
    1200
    1060
    880
    660
    460
    360
    210
    130
    65/128
    600
    520
    430
    320
    220
    170
    100
    60
    129/256
    240
    170
    130
    90
    70
    40
    20
    257/512
    120
    80
    60
    40
    30
    20
    10
    513/1024
    60
    40
    30
    25
    20
    10
    5


    *At the Olympic Games 3rd place will receive 9200 points. Fourth place will receive 8400 points.


    All it takes is for LD to win a SS to greatly narrow LCW's advantage when LCW did not take part.

    But in reality, LCW and LD will try to participate in as many SS from now till LOG to score more points. The higher their world ranking as No.1 or 2 will mean they do not have to meet each other in the early rounds and avoid the better players in their halves until later. The danger is that they can become fatigued or worse, sustain injury which can mean a non-appearance in the most prestigious of all tournaments - the LOG 2012!


    Maybe someone can volunteer to research into the number of world ranking tournaments that LD and LCW will be participating before LOG. It will be interesting to note which are the ones that the two will likely meet in competition.
    Last edited by Loh; 12-14-2011 at 09:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    I was wondering why you are so sure that LCW will remain as WR1 before LOG 2012.
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    You need to go back to Post #1 to find out.
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    LCW's coach: Chong Wei, this our plan on how to beat Lin Dan. Blablablablabla...
    LCW: OMG, I have loose to Chen Long in two tournament in a row!
    LCW's coach: OMG, Chong Wei, change the tactics, I got a new plan to beat Chen Long. Blablablablabla...
    LCW: OMG, please stop this! I'm confuse! Which plan should I use now?!!!

    Probably, this is what LCW have to face. Right now, not just Lin Dan gonna intercept him but Chen Long as well.
    Poor LCW.

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    Lightbulb TH to help LCW, while LD to help CL

    Quote Originally Posted by Alone View Post
    LCW's coach: Chong Wei, this our plan on how to beat Lin Dan. Blablablablabla...
    LCW: OMG, I have loose to Chen Long in two tournament in a row!
    LCW's coach: OMG, Chong Wei, change the tactics, I got a new plan to beat Chen Long. Blablablablabla...
    LCW: OMG, please stop this! I'm confuse! Which plan should I use now?!!!

    Probably, this is what LCW have to face. Right now, not just Lin Dan gonna intercept him but Chen Long as well.
    Poor LCW.
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    LCW will ask for help from Taufik.

    If Taufik can defeat Chen Long and only giving few points to him, then Kenichi Tago could end up as 2nd in Group B.

    But then, Lin Dan will help Chen Long by giving even fewer points to Kenichi Tago.

    Check the Group B Results here;

    http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...1756AE7&draw=2
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    This is becoming to sound like a badminton soap opera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Lee Chong Wei to remain as World No.1 until the 2012 Olympic Games

    Greetings,

    From we what have witnessed recently, China is no longer interested to have Lin Dan to regain his World No.1 position.

    As disappointed as most of us BCers are (wanting to watch matches between Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan), we might only get to watch them play each other in fewer occasions from now on.

    IMHO, Lee Chong Wei could remain as World No.1 until he retires after the 2012 Olympic Games.

    This thread is created to monitor players who could come forward to challenge Lee Chong Wei.

    Cheers... chris-ccc

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    You need to go back to Post #1 to find out.
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    Well I have taken a look at your #1 post and I found nothing concrete to substantiate your claim.

    To claim that "China is no longer interested to have Lin Dan to regain his World No.1 position". " does not tally with what LD has been dishing out whenever he meets LCW.
    LD wins most of the time! And he even beats his teammate CL lately to try to regain his WR1 standing.

    As I've said, LCW's position is now rather "precipitous" as he could fall suddenly not only to LD but to CL as well.
    Last edited by Loh; 12-15-2011 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    LCW will ask for help from Taufik.

    If Taufik can defeat Chen Long and only giving few points to him, then Kenichi Tago could end up as 2nd in Group B.

    But then, Lin Dan will help Chen Long by giving even fewer points to Kenichi Tago.

    Check the Group B Results here;

    http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...1756AE7&draw=2
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    Unfortunately, not even ex-Olympic champion Taufik can help himself. He has been beaten by much lower-ranked players like Derek Wong of Singapore during the recent SEA Games and Tago of Japan at the ongoing SS Finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Unfortunately, not even ex-Olympic champion Taufik can help himself. He has been beaten by much lower-ranked players like Derek Wong of Singapore during the recent SEA Games and Tago of Japan at the ongoing SS Finals.
    Taufik is not good. I do watch his game in the SEA Games.
    He doesn't play good even though he played in home soil with all the berserk fans.
    He is just over-age right now. He easy to get tired and he is not the player that we are used to watch in the past.
    The same thing will goes to Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan.
    But I heard that Lin Dan will retired when he reach 35. lol

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