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07-21-2011, 10:55 AM #1089
Practice the stroke move and accuracy at the same time.
07-21-2011, 11:03 AM #1090
coachgary, agree, thats the point I was making, the feed/situation is wrong and the stroke isn't deceptive
07-24-2011, 05:05 AM #1091
Got a video of myself playing. I'm the one wearing a yellow singlet. Being a badminton addict that I am, this game happened about 4 hours before my marathon. LOL. I was supposed to be relaxing, but I just couldn't help it. I needed to play.
Last edited by venkatesh; 07-24-2011 at 05:16 AM.
07-24-2011, 07:16 AM #1092
07-24-2011, 07:40 AM #1093
07-24-2011, 08:40 AM #1094
I liked your game. You are always looking for kills near the net, your service is good & you are always looking for the attack. To me, these are the essense of badminton doubles.
But it is difficult to judge your game by this video. You are not playing in a group who are really aggressive. Nobody is a hard smasher. And you partner is not attcking enough-He is relying on drop shots mainly. And many mid court smashes are also not finished. These all indicate, the group is not playing a really attacking game. Isnpite of that, you are doing your part decently.
While serving, your racket is nearly upright-why? More horizontal racket may give you flexibility to play other shots and give more control on low serve. Just my thought.
I woulf like to see you playing with a more advanced grioup where you will be really tested. Here, you don't need to earn attack-they are just gifted every now and then. Does not happen with good opponents.
All the best
07-24-2011, 09:11 AM #1095
I noticed you could improve your positiong a bit - when your partener is in deep forhand corner, you seemed to stick to the T a bit when you are at the net. I think it would be better to take a step/step-and-a-half to the forehand side. Curiously, you already do this on backhand side but not the forehand.
07-24-2011, 10:45 AM #1096
07-24-2011, 11:02 AM #1097
Don't you think this is a better strategy as regards the positioning?
07-24-2011, 01:28 PM #1098
I think it is better you tell him to not hit so many cross court shots
07-24-2011, 01:54 PM #1099
and it's not the net shot that will be problem - you can still get to it easy enough. it is if their shot is line drive/push that you cant get. Then he definitely cant get it.
07-24-2011, 02:00 PM #1100
I noticed you hold your left arm in a somewhat awkward position sometimes, you never 'pull down' when you do a smash or drop shot. Doing that helps with upper body rotation - which you lack in some situations, most noticeably the smash. You have a decently powerful smash, but it could be better if you included upper body rotation. You just flex your body forwards, much like a football player on a header. Look at one or two videos of FHF or LD smashing (there are loads of slow-mos on youtube), they both have incredible smashes.
07-24-2011, 02:51 PM #1101
you do play very well, but I noticed something odd.
When you stand in front of the court, you are usually placed correctly, taking a step back and all, but then you rush forward as soon as you see that your partner played a drop.
I think you should rather wait for the opponent to actually hit the shuttle before rushing for the kill instead of anticipating a net shot, because it leaves to much room behind you for the opponents to play a push or a drive effectively. Against this pair, it's ok, because they are very passive defenders, but against other people you will lose the attack very often, or make mistakes because of this.
And even if they play a drop, then you stand too close to then net (in front of the service line) so you're not in the best position to counterdrop, if you can't kill it. Whatever happens, you should almost never wait for a shot standing before the service line.
As the front guy, you job is to Keep the Attack on, no matter what. Killing drops comes in second. Try reducing the divorce zone between you and your partner, it will be more difficult for your opponents to gain the upper hand again.
Would anyone else agree with me?
Oh, and wait with your racket up ( you don't always do it), and above all more in front of you, you will be able to intercept/play a lot more shuttles, and they will be much easier
07-24-2011, 03:10 PM #1102
You guys have a steady game, good service and technique- though a bit too slow paced for doubles (I know you may play differently with better people).
I think one area you do need to work on though, is partner awareness and court awareness as a pairing.
Yes I'd agree with the above post too, by coming in too soon, you're effectively saying to the returner you have to get it past me, it also means you cannot get to the shot. If saw the opponent doing that, I would be moving the guy at the back around, effectively ruling you out of the rally- tiring him out massively because he has to cover a much larger area of court.
5:35 is a good example, you move in too close when you should be covering the gap on the other side of the court when your partner goes wide.
07-24-2011, 08:18 PM #1103
The front court player's responsibility is to keep the attack going and wait for weak returns. If the rear court player smashes, the front player usually stands in the midcourt, anticipates for a weak reply and then pounce a kill. However, if the rear player hits a fast/slow drop near the net, mostly, there are only two replies: another lift or a drop shot.
Let's assess this. Let's focus more on the latter case, wherein the rear player hits a fast/slow drop. If you're the front player, what do you think is the best position so you could make a kill? First, the fast/slow drop will hit near the net (tight), or let's say in front of the opponents' front service line. What does this tell you? It means that the defending opponent will be forced to go forward. Now, this means that the opponents hitting the shuttle toward our midcourt (push or drive) is crossed out. If ever they do, it will be a midcourt lift and will be very loose and high, and the best player to make a kill in this situation is the rear court player, as he can see the midcourt more and is always prepared for a kill. Thus, the opponents will hit either a lift or a drop shot. If they lift, the attack is maintained. The rear player will always be there to hit a smash or another fast/drop. If the opponents hit a drop shot, the front player is there to attack. If the front player remains staying at the midcourt, he will lose those precious milliseconds by doing split steps, lunging forward, and the works. Thus, the front player may even lose that precious net kill. However, if the front player rushes forward, knowing that midcourt shots are crossed out, there's more chance of making a net kill (see 2:11-2:13 and 2:39-2:41).
I love watching mixed doubles. This is what the girls usually do. The girls are usually taken for granted, but I think successful pairs are those with good front ladies. And if you're going to observe, they raise their racket up high enough to intercept but not to high to block the guys' view and smash.
But then again, I still have a lot to learn. I try as much as possible to apply what I've learned from coaches and from this site. But I just want to clear it. I do not rush too much. It's just that the situation forced me to.
Thanks for the comments, but I think the one that interests me the most (and the one that could be helpful) is that of j4ckie.
Last edited by venkatesh; 07-24-2011 at 08:33 PM.
07-24-2011, 09:10 PM #1104
There are ocassions when it's not the right thing to do, even if a drop is played.If the fast/slow drop is slightly loose, you will only be covering a small section of the court, making it hard for your partner. Moreover, a player will start spotting this pattern after a while and outplay you on it (moving their base forward to get drops earlier, holding their shots to wrong foot you etc..)
If you look at 7:15, you could have intercepted on that shot if you were behind the T, which would have set you up for an easy point but you had already committed to a net kill. It means your effectiveness at the front is reduced and you're not active in the rally- your partner has to work harder. I do understand where you are coming from, but it's a risky way of playing, it opens your attack up to countering as well.
I've always been told that for doubles attack rotation, if the partner has to move wide to hit, they are out of position, and you should be covering the gap they then create regardless at what point the rally it is. It is your job to maintain the attack as well as the person smashing at the rear- if your opponents run one person side to side, they can never hold an attack down for more than 2 or 3 shots. This is a vital concept to understand.
at 5 :35 Yes the placement of the smash was weak, yes he returned it well. But you should have realised that by standing where you were (you were too far left), there was a massive gap on the right side of your court and the way he returned it, your partner would never have got there in time. Badminton is a dynamic game, attack turns to defence so quickly, you can't just assume you will be on the attack for a set period because your partner gets a lift.
Don't get me wrong I think you are a very good player and your movement is a good strong point, I don't want to make it seem as though i'm picking apart your game, I think you capable of more than we have seen in this video for sure!
07-25-2011, 04:55 AM #1105
But really, thanks for sharing your opinion.
Last edited by venkatesh; 07-25-2011 at 05:02 AM.
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