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    Thank you I totally agree - you never see someone hit like that, so predicting it becomes near impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    First MS match. The pace was excruciating Halfway through the second game, I realized he could only play a crosscourt drop shot or a longline clear - and tried to move my base position a little forward. I might've been a little overconfident as well because he used to train at my club and never took a game off me
    All in all, not an enjoyable match.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXAoXgZnUrc
    The opponent wasn't strong enough to test you from the rearcourt. However, your low serves gave him a chance to hit your rearcourt corners more easily. Your backhand flick serves just dont go high enough so it was easy for him to cut them out before getting to the rearcourt plus he was able to hit through them. You should consider using a forehand high serve against opponents that dont have a scarey attack! This would limit the amount of time you get turned around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Indeed he has
    As I said, not very good matches. In training, I usually play with the teams 3-5 divisions higher - much better rallies and higher pace as well. I'll do my best to convince them to let me play in a higher team for the rest of the season (you can change the teams after first round). Not much hope though - my current team is in dire need of manpower as nearly all players can only participate in half the matches :/
    not sure how divisions are setup where you play but considering your opponent gave you a pretty good fight, wouldn't playing 3-5 divisions higher mean you'll lose almost all your matches?
    Personally, I like playing against people with weird unpredictable technique because it tests my footwork and preparation, which is necessary if I wanna move up in ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urameatball View Post
    not sure how divisions are setup where you play but considering your opponent gave you a pretty good fight, wouldn't playing 3-5 divisions higher mean you'll lose almost all your matches?
    Personally, I like playing against people with weird unpredictable technique because it tests my footwork and preparation, which is necessary if I wanna move up in ranking.
    Sometimes the difference between divisions can be very small, maybe only 5% improvement per division, but doesn't mean that a player in division D can't beat one in division B just cause they are in a lower division.

    @j4ckie, how come Germany have so many divisions, there's is only like 1 division here

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    Haha, I think the German setup is the same as here but probably even bigger. We have a regional competition level with several divisions/levels each subdivided in a treestructure with promotion and relegation, including youth teams this region has 411 teams entered this season over 6-7 divisions/levels. From the highest regional division you can promote to the national competition which again has 5 divisions also subdivided in a treestructure (grouped by region/location), this has 254 teams entered in total. All in all you're probably looking at at least 2000 teams nationwide playing league each week for the first half of the season.

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    The league I play in is regional, 2 Divisions of 6 teams.... there's other leagues, but notify substantial than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    Haha, I think the German setup is the same as here but probably even bigger. We have a regional competition level with several divisions/levels each subdivided in a treestructure with promotion and relegation, including youth teams this region has 411 teams entered this season over 6-7 divisions/levels. From the highest regional division you can promote to the national competition which again has 5 divisions also subdivided in a treestructure (grouped by region/location), this has 254 teams entered in total. All in all you're probably looking at at least 2000 teams nationwide playing league each week for the first half of the season.
    WOW, I am truly impressed!!! (especially with the national competition league and how well organized it looks).



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    Quote Originally Posted by urameatball View Post
    not sure how divisions are setup where you play but considering your opponent gave you a pretty good fight, wouldn't playing 3-5 divisions higher mean you'll lose almost all your matches?
    Personally, I like playing against people with weird unpredictable technique because it tests my footwork and preparation, which is necessary if I wanna move up in ranking.
    Actually I'm more of a Doubles specialist, with the speed around court being a big weakness. I can cover a good portion of the net without moving at all, and my doubles movement is better than my singles movement.
    Anyhow, my biggest weakness is that I have problems motivating myself against weak players such as this. I have never lost a game against this guy, and I was not really in danger of losing one here - so I skimmed by with little effort. Also, I was feeling a bit tired as I had not eaten enough - a constant problem for me. At 6"2 and 180lbs I have to eat quite a bit if I want to have the energy for a good training session or 2 matches (I recorded the other MD and MS match as well - the MD was a slaughter and the MS I only have 6 minutes of because the memory chip was full - but it was a clear affair and kinda boring to watch).

    Regarding the league/division system - I'm not sure about the proper terminology here. We have the divisions A, B, C for official ranking tournaments and championships (with me playing B in U22 and now, O19 as well), and for recreational tournaments, they can add more to make the differences smaller.
    Then we have league play, where you compete as part of a team - of those, we have lots more. They start with 2 National leagues (Bundesliga), and the lowest are the (low) regional leagues.

    I was referring to leagues - currently, I play in a team competing in a mid or low regional league. Other teams in my club play in high regional, low state, mid state and low national leagues. When I mentioned me playing (training) 3-5 divisions higher, I meant 3-5 leagues which would mean a low state level (Verbandsklasse) in Lower Saxony up to high state level (all of Lower Saxony and Bremen).
    All in all, there are 13 leagues - my current level of play in Men's Doubles is around 6-8 (Mid or Low state), for Mixed Doubles and Singles, I'm not sure. Probably 7-9 for XD and 8-10 for MS. Kinda hard to say as you have 3 MS in every team and 2 MD.

    Hope I didn't bore y'all to death

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    Like so ; where "Season" = Staffel and Staffel in this context is more like Division(?) instead of season which they normally use for TV series

    http://translate.google.com/translat...0.html&act=url
    Last edited by demolidor; 11-15-2011 at 04:35 PM.

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    Season like in football/soccer - pretty much one year's competition in leagues. Season translates to Saison in German

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    High 5 for being the same height and weight (+/-5lbs) as me, I wonder if I have a long lost relative in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Actually I'm more of a Doubles specialist, with the speed around court being a big weakness. I can cover a good portion of the net without moving at all, and my doubles movement is better than my singles movement.
    Anyhow, my biggest weakness is that I have problems motivating myself against weak players such as this. I have never lost a game against this guy, and I was not really in danger of losing one here - so I skimmed by with little effort. Also, I was feeling a bit tired as I had not eaten enough - a constant problem for me. At 6"2 and 180lbs I have to eat quite a bit if I want to have the energy for a good training session or 2 matches (I recorded the other MD and MS match as well - the MD was a slaughter and the MS I only have 6 minutes of because the memory chip was full - but it was a clear affair and kinda boring to watch).

    Regarding the league/division system - I'm not sure about the proper terminology here. We have the divisions A, B, C for official ranking tournaments and championships (with me playing B in U22 and now, O19 as well), and for recreational tournaments, they can add more to make the differences smaller.
    Then we have league play, where you compete as part of a team - of those, we have lots more. They start with 2 National leagues (Bundesliga), and the lowest are the (low) regional leagues.

    I was referring to leagues - currently, I play in a team competing in a mid or low regional league. Other teams in my club play in high regional, low state, mid state and low national leagues. When I mentioned me playing (training) 3-5 divisions higher, I meant 3-5 leagues which would mean a low state level (Verbandsklasse) in Lower Saxony up to high state level (all of Lower Saxony and Bremen).
    All in all, there are 13 leagues - my current level of play in Men's Doubles is around 6-8 (Mid or Low state), for Mixed Doubles and Singles, I'm not sure. Probably 7-9 for XD and 8-10 for MS. Kinda hard to say as you have 3 MS in every team and 2 MD.

    Hope I didn't bore y'all to death

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    Took me a while of thinking but here is me playing
    I'm the boy/person in red T-shirt.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFmZq1go3Fk

    I know the mistakes I have made in this video but from the date of that video till now I've changed how I play and my court coverage is better. (a proved by one of my coaches). I'll record another when I have time.
    Backhands was an issue but I've had time to practice my backhand the day I recorded this video I was trying out a new technique.

    comments would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Season like in football/soccer - pretty much one year's competition in leagues. Season translates to Saison in German
    "Die obersten fünf Spielklassen im DBV - Siegerliste Deutsche Mannschaftsmeister

    Übersicht (In jeder Staffel spielen acht Mannschaften, in der 1. BL zehn)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    "Die obersten fünf Spielklassen im DBV - Siegerliste Deutsche Mannschaftsmeister

    Übersicht (In jeder Staffel spielen acht Mannschaften, in der 1. BL zehn)"
    Well Staffel is a different term - at the lower levels, there are several of them although all are the same league (2 Staffeln of the Bezirksliga, for example).

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    Yes I was just making clear to those who read the Google translated version that it was wrongly translated as "Season" (by Google translate) .

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    Thank you. Yeah, Google uses the TV term as that is more common.

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    @drew tze en

    Decent playing! I'm not going to go into detail on specific issues but the main thing (for the both of you actually) is that you frame or mishit a lot of shots. In addition, most of the points earned during the video are through careless errors and hitting shots out. Work on consistency and spend a lot more time warming up on clears, drives, drops, the whole thing. I also would suggest that you don't go for the full jump smash yet until you develop the other areas of your game to match your smash.

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