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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Hope it helps Raising the elbow on those shots has great effect. I don't do it much myself (as I tend to let my racket hang down too far as well ) but the -technically- best player in my club does just that, and he has a killer backhand drive and a LOT of deception on those shots.

    Always nice to have people active in this thread and have the guts to show themselves on video!
    I see, I love back hand shots but I try not to use them TOO much or else its a disadvantage in some aspects..

    hahaha it took me a while before uploading my first video on here

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    I will just reiterate what jackie said - looks like you have rubber band between your racket wrist and 'racket knee' - you want to play every shot with wrist and knee next to each other

    I also thought your backhand lifts + nets looked peculiar. 2.20, 7.33 show examples - your wrist just shouldn't move like that for that shot. Compare to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_NAx409G2M (and I loath to cite LJB )

    net shot at 2.00, 2.33 show big arm movement to the bird - need to address the shuttle earlier so that arm movement isn't part of the actual shot.

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    net shot at 1:12

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    Here's the a video of my playing dre tze en (it's a different game).

    Any tips are greatly appreciated:



    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by amleto View Post
    I will just reiterate what jackie said - looks like you have rubber band between your racket wrist and 'racket knee' - you want to play every shot with wrist and knee next to each other

    I also thought your backhand lifts + nets looked peculiar. 2.20, 7.33 show examples - your wrist just shouldn't move like that for that shot. Compare to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_NAx409G2M (and I loath to cite LJB )

    net shot at 2.00, 2.33 show big arm movement to the bird - need to address the shuttle earlier so that arm movement isn't part of the actual shot.
    hahaha, I see
    I think I just need to tighten my wrist to produce the power then letting it swing through.
    hmm... I think I need to look at my footwork to insure I get the to shuttle quick enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud7z View Post
    Here's the a video of my playing dre tze en (it's a different game).

    Any tips are greatly appreciated:



    Cheers
    Only thing I can spot is you have difficulty going from backcourt to the forecourt. If DTE sharpens his smash-return net shot, u'll probably return only 10% of his return drops. (talking about the stuff u hit near ur own baseline) I couldn't see where you placed those shots that you had trouble returning, but it seems like your weight is at the back for way too long even when you land. Half of that is from your wt transfer, half of that is footwork. Need to recover faster.

    Mid-front court rally you seem to have problems getting to the shuttle. At around the 4:45 mark you seem to be just standing around hitting the bird back and forth; so when you had to lunge, u were out of position. Make sure you have the habit of doing the split step as soon as the moment the opponent contacts the shuttle.

    Work on your change of direction as well. He caught you flat footed a few times with those.

    That's all this newbie's eyes can see

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Besides, seeing the whole court instead of just your side gives a better idea of where your shots land and how effectively you use them (i.e. if you can unbalance your opponent, keep him guessing, make the right choices etc).

    Enjoyable vid! Keep training, you're definitely improving


    PS: you give the lift away too easily at times, especially when following your attacking shot to the net. Try taking that area away from your opponent. Most of the time you get there early enough to play a very tight, tumbling net shot, which is a much more aggressive move than the slight hold &flick you use most of the time. You have the tools, but you gotta use them!
    Cloud7z posted the second game to the one you watched. Honestly, I didn't play as well I had a stitch half way through the game and I couldn't get rid of it anyway.

    I see what you mean, sometimes I play passively just allowing my opponent to smash at me. When I could be winning the point.

    Thanks again for the help J4ckie

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    hi drew tze en

    jackie pointed it out quite well.
    my first impression (before reading jackies post): wow, very decent backcourt play, but quite lousy frontcourt play.
    your smashes from the backcourt are nice, your clears are good, you have a good timing and impact on the shuttle overhead in the backcourt. with your nice smashes you create a lot of opportunities!! but then, as you have the opportunity created, you give it away at the frontcourt by either: playing a lift or taking the shuttle very low when you do a net shot.
    i think you're quick enough to take the shuttle much higher and play far more netshots. if you take the shuttle earlier, your precision will be higher on the netshot and i'm sure that will win you a lot of points!!
    i recommend you should practise that really separated from other things. if you have a partner to feed you some shuttles, tell your partner to feed you a clear, then you smash, immediately move forward, then the partner feeds a net shot and you try to play a precise spinning netshot. then he feeds a clear again. like that you can really concentrate on:
    a) move forward quick enough after the smash
    b) take the shuttle early/high
    c) play a netshot instead of a clear.

    i'm sure that would improve your game a lot!

    would look something like that...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nzNU...feature=relmfu

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    hi cloud7z

    what is obvious at first sight is that you should improve your footwork.
    2 things:
    1. you seem to lack power/athletic abilities! when you have to lunge, it takes you a lot of time to get back in balance/position. sometimes you even need to do an additional step after your stroke because you don't have the power to recover. i would suggest to do some off-court drills (lunges, weighted squats, deep jumps) to become stronger in your legs.
    2. you don't have a good rhythm on court. your movements seem a bit random (don't know how to describe...). your footwork pattern is not really an automatic movement, deeply anchored in your brain. watch for example the footwork video by jonas rasmussen on youtube and do this exercise on court to get a better rhythm and court coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |_Footwork_| View Post
    2. you don't have a good rhythm on court. your movements seem a bit random (don't know how to describe...). your footwork pattern is not really an automatic movement, deeply anchored in your brain. watch for example the footwork video by jonas rasmussen on youtube and do this exercise on court to get a better rhythm and court coverage.
    that should be peter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amleto View Post
    that should be peter...
    oooops, you're of course right, sorry for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by |_Footwork_| View Post
    hi drew tze enjackie pointed it out quite well.my first impression (before reading jackies post): wow, very decent backcourt play, but quite lousy frontcourt play.your smashes from the backcourt are nice, your clears are good, you have a good timing and impact on the shuttle overhead in the backcourt. with your nice smashes you create a lot of opportunities!! but then, as you have the opportunity created, you give it away at the frontcourt by either: playing a lift or taking the shuttle very low when you do a net shot.i think you're quick enough to take the shuttle much higher and play far more netshots. if you take the shuttle earlier, your precision will be higher on the netshot and i'm sure that will win you a lot of points!!i recommend you should practise that really separated from other things. if you have a partner to feed you some shuttles, tell your partner to feed you a clear, then you smash, immediately move forward, then the partner feeds a net shot and you try to play a precise spinning netshot. then he feeds a clear again. like that you can really concentrate on:a) move forward quick enough after the smashb) take the shuttle early/highc) play a netshot instead of a clear.i'm sure that would improve your game a lot!would look something like that...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nzNU...feature=relmfu
    Thanks for the advice I was playing badminton today, using the advice given from j4ckie and others. What you said about not lifting after smashes and taking the shuttle earlier, really helped today, I was able to win more points with my racket being up in front of my body, taking the shot earlier at the net and killing high net shots... I felt that my game was better with the advice in mind however I didn't record any matches today.

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    Thanks for your advice, I've always felt that my footwork is the worst part of my game. I have been trying to improve it for a long time, however I can never the transfer the work from drills into the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud7z View Post
    Thanks for your advice, I've always felt that my footwork is the worst part of my game. I have been trying to improve it for a long time, however I can never the transfer the work from drills into the game.
    Then you need to do more drills! Sounds stupid, but you really need to do the drills so much that moving that way around the court becomes instinctual. Of course there'll always be certain situations that you haven't practiced beforehand, but if you're able to adapt even the slightest bit there should be no problem once you get the correct footwork patterns down.
    Most important thing in footwork: split step. To get it right, you need to practice, practice, practice. It does not come naturally, so you need to remind yourself to use it in training, and long enough that it becomes subconscious.
    I can only agree with Footwork - watch the Peter Rasmussen video, and start with that drill. At least 15 min per training of footwork!

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    First things i noticed are that you tend to grip the racket very high and too flat when playing a forehand (and don't pronate) - and that no one uses their left arm very well at all
    You also waste a lot of angle by not playing the shuttle at the highest point possible, but very far below that. Try to stretch your arm more when playing a shot, and rotating your body into the shot
    Anyway, nice rallies. Good consistency in those
    What level do you guys play at?
    Thanks for your advice. Im really not using my height good enough. For singles i gripped my racket with the LD style to force myself gripping lower. Seems to help a lot. I try to work on these points you mentioned in the training
    We play in the Verbandsliga in BW.
    Where do you play / which level?

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    Verbandsklasse Hannover in Niedersachsen. So far, pretty successfull individually (MD&MS)
    Goal for next season is Niedersachsen-Bremen-Liga as MS3/XD and MD2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Then you need to do more drills! Sounds stupid, but you really need to do the drills so much that moving that way around the court becomes instinctual. Of course there'll always be certain situations that you haven't practiced beforehand, but if you're able to adapt even the slightest bit there should be no problem once you get the correct footwork patterns down.
    Most important thing in footwork: split step. To get it right, you need to practice, practice, practice. It does not come naturally, so you need to remind yourself to use it in training, and long enough that it becomes subconscious.
    I can only agree with Footwork - watch the Peter Rasmussen video, and start with that drill. At least 15 min per training of footwork!

    that's 100% true!
    unfortunately, footwork is really hard work. you need to really automatize the correct footwork pattern and establish a good rhythm. especially in singles, it is maybe the most important thing to have proper footwork! if you don't get to the shuttle in time, you can't hit it properly. sounds trivial, but it's true...

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