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Thread: Improving my Backhand :(!
04-26-2009, 05:16 PM #18
well, if you can't do a good backhand clear, u can always do a backhand drop so at the least, your opponent can't kill the birdy off
05-01-2009, 02:17 AM #19
but if you just afraid of your backhand and keep trying to find other way to cover it. Turn out that's going to leave your opponent know, or aspect the net shot gonna be. So just practice. It's all about timing, not that hard.
Try to combine your body motion to increase the power.
snap your wrist, don't just use your shoulder.
Lol mention about shoulder, I actually know this one guy ONLY use his shoulder for backhand (well by using shoulder, that does include the body motion). I mean i'm surprise that he able to do that shot. It just look so funny and weird. However is not totally strong yet, just decent.
05-01-2009, 02:46 AM #20
to be able to hit a backhand clear is important, because if you cant your opponent woud just rush to the net when they see you going for a backhand, and kill it.
05-01-2009, 05:27 PM #21
05-01-2009, 05:37 PM #22
05-02-2009, 05:45 PM #23
Practice, practice, practice! There is no fast way to improve you backhand high clears.
05-03-2009, 06:56 AM #24
can i introduce more wrist into my backhand clears by practicing with the 'wrong' old forehand grip and when i get sufficient wrist power, i can move towards the right bevel grip to chanel the increased power into the stroke. its an idea
05-03-2009, 12:59 PM #25
05-03-2009, 11:16 PM #26
There no right/wrong ways of hitting a backhand: You just have to fine tune your comfort zone and strength to do a back-hand. Some might disagree with me, you don't have to follow the book but use people idea-or someone who you see during it correctly as a guideline to try it and put some of your own touch or feel for the backhand. In no time, you will be doing a great back-hand, it might looks ugly, it might look like couching tiger or it just look like the back hand matrix or a typical backhand. Whatever it is , you have found the touch. So good luck, in ever fine - tunning that back hand till it becomes so easy like a forward hand---->>>Backhand & Smashing = similar learning curve...just make it better ever time: don't be afraid to try out new ideas, and willing to take risk in doing it.
05-04-2009, 07:58 PM #27
i agree with the finetuning and practice but seriously if you have the incorrect technique your only going to be wasting energy and have a good chance to cause injury.
With the correct technique you barely have to hit it as hard as you can. Just like a clear for me i barely have to put power and effort into it. My backhand is similiar but ofcourse i do flick through a little bit more to get that height and full length.
Technique is very important. Follow the correct technique and practice lots and lots and lots. Over time your backhand will slowly strengthen.
05-04-2009, 08:08 PM #28
05-04-2009, 08:29 PM #29
First i just want to apology to all the grammar that im going to make. 2 reasons, 1st English is not my favorite choices, 2nd my key boards got bugs or something, weird.
Anyway, Let me ask you guys what is wrong and what is right?
How do you know something had been done is right, and wrong?
Lets say I wrote a book, and state this and state that with all the informations that i gather, would that makes my book is Right. Or is it RIGHT that is BASED on the information I gathered?
But what if the information were wrong in the first place?
Okay so anyway we going to come in where, oh dude, The method is being USEEEE by the international player, and has been tested, and has been tried by thousand of people.
Okay sure enough, that is right.
But what if that method is just not RIGHT for THIS one person, or maybe that method is just not SUITABLE for that one person. So would that be a RIGHT method for him?
Yea sure, we can always say oh then the problem is him or she. But wow a person is a person, they were built with that structure, they didnt have the choice over that. So if is not fit for him is not fit for him, which mean it is a WRONG method for him.
And of course let say "weird" method that this guy come up, and it works better for HIM by the method that everybody else using. Then there is nothing wrong just stick to his own method.
Why? Because he has been tested by himself, has been tried by himself, and has been proven by himself, then that is all he needs. Beside it is for him NOT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
And we all know that if a method has stated, that method has to be test, test, and test to insure that it is the right method.
I hope this make sense. All i want to say is just go out there and try every ways that people point out to you. And practice all of them until you find out which one is best suit for you. The important point is LISTEN, UNDERSTAND, and PRACTICE.
05-04-2009, 09:39 PM #30
i understand where your coming from gamepurpose but there is a difference between learning correct technique and "mimicking" play to perfection.
1 person can learn the correct technique and look quite different to international players. for each shot there is a step by step process of how to correctly conduct the shot to get a positive outcome.
On the other hand mimicking exactly what lindan looks like can be done but ofcourse i garentee most people wont be able to do it and his playing style wont work for alot of people. But you can infact learn the basic technique without copying absolutely identically everything international players do.
I no people at my club who claim their technique works for them so it must be correct. But i can see from watching them play its terrible lol. Not only do they wonder why theyr shots are not effective but they also wonder why they get so sore and tired.
I begin teaching them how to adjust and correctly apply techniques and shots and those who are keen enough to learn overtime apply the techniques to their own play style.
Basically in terms of how do you tell what is right or wrong? The more experienced players and coaches can pick these things from a mile away. Im fortunate to have a deal of experience and can see these things aswell. So i find myself doing a fair bit of coaching/helping at my club nowadays.
Lemme know if this made sense to you or not because il try to go into further detail if you would like. But right now iv made it pretty simple.
05-05-2009, 05:26 AM #31
Listen, Understand, Practice.
Listen, to someone who knows how its done and is able to explain it.
Understand, why these techniques are taught and are effective.
Practice, only practice the correct technique. For every week you practice the wrong technique you'll spend another 12 weeks re-learning the correct one or spend a lifetime with injuries!
05-05-2009, 09:33 AM #32
05-05-2009, 10:29 AM #33
05-05-2009, 07:07 PM #34
thank you for pointing your points. But I guess you didn't really read it carefully or I'm just kinda confusing people with my bad grammar.
Let's just base on international player technique to talk about. First of all, how long has this sport was invented, and at what time was there the first tournament for international?
Geezzz sorry I don't know. Let's say start out way back then international players, so called ancient players, versus now a day international players. I think there will be differences.
I do not have record to back me up, but base on LOGIC. I THINK, and only think only of course I might be wrong, with my logic I think things are usually (i will not use always, because there is no such thing as always, or must or 100%) improve little by little. So that tells me now a day international should be better than the ancient people.
However, like we said based on international player skills, those are the right technique. So therefore, in the ancient time the technique should be right because it was used by the international players. And now, we FIXED that technique, or sharpen that technique. WHICH mean we actually CHANGED the technique. Same basic but a little bit different to improve it. And now we consider now a day international technique are the right technique. So would we still be calling the back then techniques are wrong?
I mean all i'm saying
well like coachgary said and agreed with me Listen, Understand, and Practice.
However, I guess coachgary kinda jump on the conclusion. I did not say keep practice the wrong technique.
If you really understand the process, LISTEN, UNDERSTAND, AND PRACTICE.
at step #2 UNDERSTAND, if we already understand that technique is wrong, then why would we waste time to practice?
Of course, this is not one way trip
first we listen to one person, understand what he meant, and true understand it I mean, technique, why, and how. Then we apply to practice.
But if it is not the maximum effectively, then I guess either find another person and redo the steps all over.
And if no one can really teach you further. Then it is up to yourself to refine the best technique you can come up so far.
However, it might not be the best, because if you have no creative mind then you just have to stuck with it.
But if you do have a great mind to use it. Then try a different technique see if it is gonna be better the one that is already existed.
that is just my logic opinion as a badminton player.
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