07-31-2009, 08:38 PM #375
I will write up a more comprehensive review of the Ultra when I get it back from GrandMaster Tedski and add a layer of overgrip.
Last edited by Pete LSD; 07-31-2009 at 08:41 PM.
07-31-2009, 08:43 PM #376
07-31-2009, 08:44 PM #377
Yes, the Trinity is an impressive racquet. However, the TC700 feels "harder" when hitting the shuttle, so I wonder if the TC700 is stiffer overall, shaft+frame as compared to the Trinity where the shaft is stiff and maybe the frame not as stiff ?
Maybe Twobeer can shed some light on this, he is after all a TC700 expert !
07-31-2009, 08:52 PM #378
Hi Guys. I also bought an Ultra and Trinity from DinkAlot. Tried both racquets last night and here is my thoughts.
Tried the Trinity at first, since it received so many positive feedback. I liked its overall lightness but I found that the head is too light. The main problem is I couldn't get the timing right although sometime I could feel that it is pretty powerful when I got it right but I couldn't do it consistently. I couldn't get any feel and every shot wasn't good.
Switched to Ultra. I doubt that I would like it cos so many people said it's demanding. But amazingly, I like it really much. From the first hit I felt this racquet is so suitable for me and I got so much feel. Everything was perfect therefore I think Ultra is definitely for me. Every shot is effortless and smash is more powerful. This is definitely the best racquet I have ever used, before it was AT 700. I am really amazed by Ultra and keep up the good work Dink.
Now my question is that I'm not a powerful player nor a big smasher but why Ultra suits me so well?
07-31-2009, 08:55 PM #379
What are the specs for your racquets ? What weight and bp did you ask for ?
For my Trinity, the weight is 85gm and the bp with string and a overgrip is 290mm and it is just nice for me as I am used to such specs.
07-31-2009, 09:17 PM #380
The answer to this is simple:
2) What you are used to
The AT700 is a very head heavy racket. Your timing has grown accustomed to it. The Ultra swings more like an AT700, so it matches your timing, what you are used to.
If you had a Trinity with similar BP to the Ultra, I'm sure it would hit much better.
07-31-2009, 09:36 PM #381
These are the specs.
Yeah I agree the Ultra feels like AT700 but more powerful. Do you have Trinity with similar spec? Why do you think it would be better? Is that because it is less stiff?
07-31-2009, 09:41 PM #382
I've also noticed that the Trinity feels more solid when hitting smashes and clears. While the Cab30 outright is a very solid racket, the Trinity has far less vibration from hitting smashes and clears. The racket simply has very little rebound. With this in mind, I would refrain from getting an end-loaded version just for power; I feel touch shots such as net drops and kills suffer as a result.
I would bring up that Dinkalot's rackets do NOT play like yonex rackets. The material used is different, and the overall feel is different. However, given enough time to make adjustments, they do play better. I would use the same tension you've been using on your original rackets and see for yourself.
07-31-2009, 11:36 PM #383
08-01-2009, 12:41 AM #384
Guess it is a night for a few reviews just got back from 3hrs of playing.
So here goes my initial thoughts. Badminton is done for a few weeks so will
give a better review down the road.
Trinity 85.2 grams bp 285
Ultra 86 grams bp 290
Nice thing about the rackets is that I picked out exactly what
I wanted. Having owned about 40 to 50 rackets I have it down
to a few grams and what balance I like.
Looks prefer the Trinity but both are nice looking and the color bands
pop nicely. Strung both with no surprises and frames felt solid especially the Ultra since it had the thicker frame.
Trinity 23 lbs with bg66
Ultra 21 lbs with squashmarts .68 string sample he sent me lol
play with plastic here so were mavis 350's.
Trinity no issues fast with good power as expected. So easy to play with
and other doubles players felt the same way. I had a 3rd edition ti-10 and
this is plays faster, just as good control, and has more pop.
Ultra was my concern as I wasn't sure about the stiffness. Sure glad I picked the right specs for it as it was perfect for me. Reason I say that is
I am not at a point right now to master it completely. I would say I am at about 80 percent of what this racket can do. I used it the last 4 games and I enjoyed it more every game as I adjusted to it. Felt it had better touch and more power was just a case of focusing more on technique. I tend to get lazy so the racket makes me work a bit harder and rewards me for it.
Pushing birds down the line and into the corners was noticeable better. Like
the fact this racket will be a bit of a challenge but know that it is attainable. Definitely looking forward to using it again.
Out of curiosity I borrowed the Zelm 9990 from the guy I sold it too and
tried it and it was too head heavy for me in comparison. Good power but tired me out too much after a while. Ultra felt close to the tantrum 200 but at my specs was easier to maneuver. Think the Tantrum 200 is sexier looking thou.
Tempting to order another Trinity at 86g with bp of 290 to see the difference. Just read there will be a Trinity 2 so interesting as well.
Please take into consideration that this is just my initial thoughts on the
rackets from one night of playing. It will take a few evenings to get used to them. Plus I lent them out a fair amount to see what people thought. Thanks Dan for putting the time and effort into making some well made rackets. Think people will benefit from using them as long as they know the weights and bp that compliment their style or are comfortable with.
Sorry didn't have any time to try the prototype woven. It reminded me of the woven 16 I had when you look at the construction. Heavier racket so not my preference but will test at a later time then put it up for sale.
Hope Dan will start another thread for each new racket he is coming out with so they can be more focused since this thread is getting on the large side.
08-01-2009, 12:43 AM #385
My Apacs racquets are strung at 30 and my Yonex racquets at 31 lbs.
Typically, the strings snap within a dozen sessions.
Some snap within just three or four sessions.
It depends a lot on the particular day's game level.
If it's a bad-ass smash-smash session, I expect at least one racquet to give up its strings that evening
By the way, I notice that although Apacs racquets hold tension very well, their strings are the first to go (compared to Yonex). I believe this has much to do with the quality of the grommets. Incidentally, the Li Ning racquets appear to hold both tension and string better than the competition
I'm now waiting for the strings on my Ultra to break.
I wanna try the 66 on this very violent racquet
08-01-2009, 01:35 AM #386
08-01-2009, 02:30 AM #387
08-01-2009, 05:35 AM #388
From what I have read about Trinity I cannot imagine it to be stiffer overall than TC700. The TC700 stiffness is however hard to compare at is is varying in different directions (using a tetra-axial woven pattern to accomplish this)..
I would assume it is stiffer if it feels "harder".. I usually asses stiffness by hitting the rackets, bending the shaft etc by hand has proved not to be a useful test in my experince..
As mentioned in this thread I also think it is hard to compare rackets if you use completely different strings / tension etc.. as this affects things to a big degree.. (sometimes you end up comparing strings/tensions more than comparing rackets :-) :-) ..
08-01-2009, 05:39 AM #389
The Ultra is another matter. I'm very confident it's stiffer than the TC700. In fact, I'm confident it's significantly stiffer overall. I guess only Pete would know the answer to that.
08-01-2009, 06:09 AM #390
08-01-2009, 06:10 AM #391
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