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    So no news on a BC edition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumaranai View Post
    So no news on a BC edition?
    Nope but Panda is working on a Generation II already:

    1) All black raw frame for better durability and increase aerodynamics

    2) Drop the stiffness a bit to slightly stiffer than the Trinity.

    3) A few other minor tweaks such as dropping the BP to make it more useable for all.


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    Well, whenever I decide to order, I'd rather have the first gen.'s stiffness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Nope but Panda is working on a Generation II already:

    1) All black raw frame for better durability and increase aerodynamics

    2) Drop the stiffness a bit to slightly stiffer than the Trinity.

    3) A few other minor tweaks such as dropping the BP to make it more useable for all.

    What is the expected timing of this release?

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    Meat Cleaver ordered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    What is the expected timing of this release?
    The Revelation, probably in a few months. I'm focused on tweaking the Ultra and just about done:

    1) More aerodynamic
    2) Stronger paint/clearcoat so the string tension at 35lbs. doesn't dent the frame as fast.
    3) Less stiff, about the Trinity stiffness so it's not as demanding
    4) Lowering the BP 5mm so it's not as head heavy
    5) Slightly modified graphics

    I love the Ultra but it's a bit too hard to use for most. I want to make it more useable, more friendly, while still perserving the durability and performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    The Revelation, probably in a few months. I'm focused on tweaking the Ultra and just about done:

    1) More aerodynamic
    2) Stronger paint/clearcoat so the string tension at 35lbs. doesn't dent the frame as fast.
    3) Less stiff, about the Trinity stiffness so it's not as demanding
    4) Lowering the BP 5mm so it's not as head heavy
    5) Slightly modified graphics

    I love the Ultra but it's a bit too hard to use for most. I want to make it more useable, more friendly, while still perserving the durability and performance.
    i thought u wanted no paint..

    1) All black raw frame for better durability and increase aerodynamics

    Why don't u make it a black theme racket, laminate film for the name and logo, and lightly powder spot paint to give it some highlights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    i thought u wanted no paint..

    1) All black raw frame for better durability and increase aerodynamics

    Why don't u make it a black theme racket, laminate film for the name and logo, and lightly powder spot paint to give it some highlights.
    That's what I'm doing to the frame, making it raw. That's my version of,

    "Stronger paint/clearcoat so the string tension at 35lbs. doesn't dent the frame as fast."

    As for all black, naw, it'll be too close to the Revelation.

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    no paint = no paintchips! good for noobs like me. i clashed an ultra twice pretty good and only got minor paint damage

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    3) Less stiff, about the Trinity stiffness so it's not as demanding
    4) Lowering the BP 5mm so it's not as head heavy
    5) Slightly modified graphics



    Well wehen everyone switches to the revelation, I'll glaldy scopp up all the Ultras.

    I've always wanted midnight metallic ( think it ws also gunmetal gray metallic when it was on the old Z28 Camaro) racquet with a shockwave hologram on it.

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    You might as well call it the Ultra II, going along with the Trinity II. Some people may desire the original specs. Of course, adding the new paint improvements would be welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumaranai View Post
    You might as well call it the Ultra II, going along with the Trinity II. Some people may desire the original specs. Of course, adding the new paint improvements would be welcome.
    Why not keep the U II as stiff material-wise as the original and make it down to 6.5mm on the tapered shaft instead for added responsivness/flex??

    I am really not to keen on the whole idea of adding stiffness by making the shaft thick..

    /T

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    Quote Originally Posted by twobeer View Post
    Why not keep the U II as stiff material-wise as the original and make it down to 6.5mm on the tapered shaft instead for added responsivness/flex??

    I am really not to keen on the whole idea of adding stiffness by making the shaft thick..

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    Sometimes cost in prohibitive and a 6.5mm shaft, no matter how strong, so far (this side of woven), will not last this Panda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumaranai View Post
    You might as well call it the Ultra II, going along with the Trinity II. Some people may desire the original specs. Of course, adding the new paint improvements would be welcome.
    The fact of the matter is, some people will desire the original specs but in reality, almost no one can wield it. It's too demanding and fatigue sets in fast. Case and point, even Halim Haryanto Ho said it was a great racket but very demanding and he would get tired fast. And Halim "only" hit with an 86.0g BP290 version.

    The new Ultra will be very stiff but not as demanding and overall, play much better.

    The main point is, would you rather hit 100% for 90 or 100 swings or 80% for 500 swings? Most will prefer the latter.

    Comparing the AT700 85g, BP310 to the Ultra, 87g, BP295, for Panda, here's roughly what happens:

    AT700:
    Swing 50% my max results in 70% racket potential
    Swing 70% my max results in 90% racket potential
    Swing 85% my max results in 100% racket potential
    Swing 100% my max results in 120% racket potential, overstressing it

    Ultra:
    Swing 50% my max results in 35% racket potential
    Swing 70% my max results in 60% racket potential
    Swing 85% my max results in 85% racket potential
    Swing 100% my max results in 100%-105% racket potential

    But when do you get to swing 100% in a game and how often? How often does the opponent give you a straight lift? All things to consider.

    Finally, and I guess this should be in another post altogether, to find the ideal attacking racket (assuming all other factors are equal) is to find one where the effort you put in yields more than the racket's potential, to the point where your 100% smash does not overstress the racket, at least not too much.

    What you prefer, what you can handle, and what is most effective maybe three different things. Ideally, you want all three but usually that's not the case. So, go for two out of three, what you prefer and what is most effective.

    If it's the worst case scenario and you can only do one, most people go for what's most effective. Then there are others who cannot or will not compromise and play with what they prefer first and foremost, regardless of the outcome. This works for pros because they are elite and confidence and consistency is more important than anything else. But for us recreational players, most effective maybe the best followed by what you prefer.

    How do you find out what's best for you, experiment and you'll start to notice. Ideally, find a coach or someone knowledgeable, they can tell you, if you're truly willing to listen.

    I know this one young man, 19, up and coming, played a couple of years, about a "D" level. He used 30lbs. string tension and a 2U racket. His form was terrible mostly due to the racket and string tension. He would loop and whip the racket because the string was too tight and the racket too heavy. I got to know this person and told him he could improve half a level just by changing his equipment. He was so excited until I told him to go to an 86g racket and 24lbs. string tension. He was so upset, he didn't want to do it. But after doing so, with about a month adjustment period, he played so much better and his form was better too because he didn't have to use so much effort to move the racket and flex the string.

    Last but not least, as I've said (closing in on a hundred times) before, it's all relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Sometimes cost in prohibitive and a 6.5mm shaft, no matter how strong, so far (this side of woven), will not last this Panda.
    baah, just produce a few extra spares of the orig ultra :-)

    /T

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    LOL, twobeer. And hey, panda or someone did mention using the Ultra as a training tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumaranai View Post
    LOL, twobeer. And hey, panda or someone did mention using the Ultra as a training tool.
    Yep, I've had about 4 people purchase the Ultra, say it's too demanding and they keep it as a training racket. A few more swapped for a Trinity.

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