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    so far only 15 ?
    no wonder Panda does not want to make it ....

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    plan to own one.
    from malaysia. haha...
    may i know wats the price in malaysia?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jysw1986 View Post
    plan to own one.
    from malaysia. haha...
    may i know wats the price in malaysia?
    thanks
    do not ask the price first, because if you know the price you may not want to buy it ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    do not ask the price first, because if you know the price you may not want to buy it ....
    If, that's a big IF the Revelation is produced, the street price will be about $150 - 165 USD.

    If possible lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    If, that's a big IF the Revelation is produced, the street price will be about $150 - 165 USD.
    If possible lower.
    thanks for the info ... hope your info will clear the mind of people in Malaysia which still think that Panda Power is a cheap racket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    If, that's a big IF the Revelation is produced, the street price will be about $150 - 165 USD.

    If possible lower.
    Wow! That's quite good for a fully woven. I'd get a few if you manage to make it play at least 25% better than T2/T Pro as you said.

    But why is it so hard to get the right shaft to match? Is it because fully woven shaft is too stiff or kick-point is hard to design?

    If so, perhaps a non-woven shaft will match better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    do not ask the price first, because if you know the price you may not want to buy it ....
    i am expecting for the price to be around rm500. which is probably usd$ 150 or so.
    guess i am right. haha...
    i am thinking of getting either a ns9900 or a panda racket in few months time.
    now waiting for the revelation to come out and hear bout the reviews first. haha
    currently own a T200 which is really good for the price...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jysw1986 View Post
    i am expecting for the price to be around rm500. which is probably usd$ 150 or so.
    guess i am right. haha...
    i am thinking of getting either a ns9900 or a panda racket in few months time.
    now waiting for the revelation to come out and hear bout the reviews first. haha
    currently own a T200 which is really good for the price...
    $150 ! And how much did you pay for the T 200 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolsan View Post
    $150 ! And how much did you pay for the T 200 ???
    of coz it cannot compare to t200 price.
    t200 is rm250 which is less than $100. probably $80? haha

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    Sir, "synergy" is the key to racket design. If you recall:

    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Originally Posted on 07-29-2010 08:25 AM

    1) Revelation: on hold for at least 3+ months as Panda continues to look for the right shaft to match frame. Developing the Revelation (100% woven frame), Panda really learned about racket "synergy". To create a successful racket, the shaft has to match the frame, vice versa. In addition, the balance, weight, and shaft kick point have to work together in harmony. If any one of these elements is off, it hurts the racket as a whole.

    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Wow! That's quite good for a fully woven. I'd get a few if you manage to make it play at least 25% better than T2/T Pro as you said.

    But why is it so hard to get the right shaft to match? Is it because fully woven shaft is too stiff or kick-point is hard to design?

    If so, perhaps a non-woven shaft will match better?

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    Initial review of the Trinity Pro from I.K. in New Jersey, USA via e-mail:

    "Thanks,
    I got the racket.
    It's the best I've had so far.
    I tryed it last Friday without any overgrips (was 310mm balance) [with string].
    The power is incredible and the net drops are very precise. I like ZyMax70 than bg80.
    Shaft stiffness and the string tension are just right for me.
    Easy to get used to.
    I am still exrerimenting with the balance. I took of the original grip off and used two thin overgrips to move the balance to 305mm.
    It should be better, I will try it this week.
    Thanks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jysw1986 View Post
    of coz it cannot compare to t200 price.
    t200 is rm250 which is less than $100. probably $80? haha
    is there any other site with unbiased reviews of the DC rackets ?

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    This place should be pretty good for the reviews.
    This is only my 2nd ever Panda racquet and it really is as good (for my style and capabilities) as everyone makes it out to be. It might sound biased, but you just have to try it and see for yourself. Reviews can only get you so much and just point you in the general direction when it comes to racquet selection just because everyone plays differently. I used to be a Yonex guy and this is my first racquet outside yonex and it's very good. I have played with SOTX and RSL's as well. Just for reference here are the list of racquets that I have owned.

    Kawasaki ??? (1994), Carbonex xx, Isometric Ti SX, Ti-10 1st gen, TI-8, MP88, MP100, MP90, AT800 OF and DF, AT900 P and T
    Arc7, ArcZ, TI-10 3rd gen, Precision, TPro.

    I have played with NS8000, NS9900, Arc10, SOTX W7, RSL something, Arc 9, AT700, AT600. I even just tried out the Voltric 70 the other day and my first impression was "meh". Nothing special, a bit head heavy, definitely feel vibration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolsan View Post
    is there any other site with unbiased reviews of the DC rackets ?
    These are unbiased review. Panda directly copies and pastes them, unchanged. You will see a "more" negative review coming up shortly.

    There's no perfect all-in-one racket for everyone. It would be like say one food is everyone's favorite, it just will not happen.

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    Why there are so many rackets: so many players and each one with different preferences...

    A local advanced player, "V", purchased a TPro, wanted it in G4, 88g, BP288 with ZM70 @ 27lbs.
    So Panda modded the grip and got him about G4 (he thought it was a bit thicker), 87.5g, BP287.

    Though he liked it, he felt it was a bit too heavy and demanding...

    ...Panda let him try his personal Ultra Pro, ~86.5g, BP294 with ZM62 @ 28lbs., G5 (RKEP Ultimate) and "V" thought the racket was less demanding, and better suited for him. So Panda let him exchange rackets.

    On paper, the UPro is more demanding and the string stiffer, harder to bend. It was fact. But yet "V" felt the UPro was easier to use and less demanding.

    Moral of the story: doesn't matter what the specs say, go with what you feel most comfortable with. But don't go with an initial impulse if you can help it; if possible, play with the racket for an extended period of time over a few days to see if it's truly the right fit for you. "V" is a more advanced player so he knows what his needs are. Pretty sure he got it right.
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    Considering that Dinkalot is the owner of DC Badminton and a well respected member here (and the overall lack of badminton forum sites), and that DC Badminton rackets are generally not sold in stores (except in Canada), it's not surprising that there are very few places to find reviews.

    One of these days, I'm going to compile and organize these reviews based on racket, then weight, then BP, then "skill level"

    EDIT: haha Dink beat me to it. Go listen to him

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    I tryed it last Friday without any overgrips (was 310mm balance) [with string].
    Consider TPro BP295 with no string. Which balance will make stringing it with ZM70 or ZM67?

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