# Thread: Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

1. Little off topic...
But after 264 pages of posts... has Panda ever taken a vacation?

2. Originally Posted by dimcorner
Little off topic...
But after 264 pages of posts... has Panda ever taken a vacation?
He doesn't need to. He practically lives within 10-20 blocks of Disneyland! And when he wants to relax, he goes hit a few birds at SGVBC!

I would trade places with him in an instant!

3. Originally Posted by dimcorner
Little off topic...
But after 264 pages of posts... has Panda ever taken a vacation?
Was going to drive up to NorCal with Coach Don and play some with Kwun and the NorCal crew for a week and also do the ultimate string test but some stuff came up so no.

Also, if you change the options in your settings to max displayed posts per page (40 post per page), it's only 113 pages.

4. Originally Posted by dagayaru
Consider TPro BP295 with no string. Which balance will make stringing it with ZM70 or ZM67?
This Panda does not understand the question. Please clarify, thanks.

5. Originally Posted by DinkAlot
This Panda does not understand the question. Please clarify, thanks.
I think what he means is how far the string will shift the BP
I would like to know the answer too
for example, string will shift the BP around 20mm to the head, overgrip will shift the BP 5mm to the handle

6. Originally Posted by DinkAlot
This Panda does not understand the question. Please clarify, thanks.
Oh, I'm sorry. Just calculating specs for TPro to meet the desired BP when strung. Could you please give a hint which BP will have a 295mm TPro after strung with ZM67? Thanks.

7. Originally Posted by Avenger
I think what he means is how far the string will shift the BP
I would like to know the answer too
for example, string will shift the BP around 20mm to the head, overgrip will shift the BP 5mm to the handle
In general:

Adding string alone: BP is increased ~6-8mm, depending on the thickness of the string.

Adding a standard 0.6mm over grip, not overlapped, tape at the bottom of the cone/cap: decreases the BP by about 4-5mm. If half overlapped and up to the handle, can decrease the BP by up to 10mm.

Replacing the original grip varies because of the replacement grips thickness and weight.
The lightest replacement grip taped at the bottom of the cone/cap is ~7g, heaviest normal flat grip: ~12g, heaviest with a raised ridge ~15g, so a 6g to 8g difference in grip weight alone can be achieved.

8. Originally Posted by dagayaru
Oh, I'm sorry. Just calculating specs for TPro to meet the desired BP when strung. Could you please give a hint which BP will have a 295mm TPro after strung with ZM67? Thanks.
Oh that's easy, because Panda's 3 x TPros before stringing are 288-289, after stringing BP295.

So if with thin string, need BP 289-290 to achieve BP295 with string

If with thick string, need BP 287-288 to achiece BP295 with string

9. Originally Posted by DinkAlot
In general:

Adding string alone: BP is increased ~6-8mm, depending on the thickness of the string.

Adding a standard 0.6mm over grip, not overlapped, tape at the bottom of the cone/cap: decreases the BP by about 4-5mm. If half overlapped and up to the handle, can decrease the BP by up to 10mm.

Replacing the original grip varies because of the replacement grips thickness and weight.
The lightest replacement grip taped at the bottom of the cone/cap is ~7g, heaviest normal flat grip: ~12g, heaviest with a raised ridge ~15g, so a 6g to 8g difference in grip weight alone can be achieved.
Thanks Dink for the information, I am surprised that string only increase the BP by 6-8mm
I thought it would be around 15-20mm

*and it seems I should stop trying to figure out what people said!

10. Originally Posted by Avenger
Mark tried it, but with 269mm and 270mm BP
I haven't tried it yet - mine will only get here when yours get here!

11. Originally Posted by Thompson
What exactly is Woven? And what's so special about it?

I had a SOTX Woven 11, great racket. How does the UPro compare to this?

12. Originally Posted by Thompson
Woven is supposed to me stronger & more stable less random than standard grapite. Also I think (Someone will correct me I am sure) that using woven means less adhesives & compounds so more of the stuff that matters, less of the stuff that doesn't.

Woven isn't a game changer though, some of the SOTX woven rackets are good, some are not so (IMHO). As I said in my previous post in this thread the Fleet Woven rackets are very poor.

13. With woven, I find that since it is a much more carbon dependent process, it really really shines through with higher grades of carbon. For example, check the grades of carbon on a W5 as opposed to a W12 or W16. SOTX tends to use a higher modulus (read higher quality and higher price) graphite on the more expensive rackets. You are really getting what you're paying for. Fleet rackets are most likely using a very low quality graphite coupled with a low QC requirement to drive down prices.

With DC Badminton, only the strictest 2-stage QC process is used as well as quality carbon graphite. This (along with relatively small brand orders of a couple hundred) means the rackets certainly won't be \$50. But the lack of an advertising/marketing budget means you won't be paying \$200 (Yonex) or \$300 (LN) for a quality product either. Also, with DC Badminton, you can (almost) name your spec for no extra fee. Gone are the days of buying two "identical" rackets and having them play so differently they throw odd your game.

14. Wow, didn't expect package to arrive in about a week can take up to a month sometimes.

One already strung off to test, bonus is to get to try polysorb insoles as well.

Nice looking racket more tangerine than gold and a bit more stiff than the old T2.

Sort of feels like an Ultra jr which makes me exciting as Ultra has great control but
a bit too much for me. Precision I have sort of outgrown as with my elbow healing
shaft is getting a bit too flexy.

Will give a review after a few sessions unless I get too excited after trying.

15. LOL "Table willed to Fidget"

Does that include the rackets on it?

16. Originally Posted by singnflip4life
LOL "Table willed to Fidget"

Does that include the rackets on it?
Indeed, Pat! Thanks, I'll take the rackets, you keep the table!

Please do review the rackets. Dimcorner's review is excellent, but we need more. So far the consensus is this T-Pro is an improvement over the T2 --in part because it's stiffer. Sounds like the T1 if you ask me! Await ormy4 and other reviews!

17. Originally Posted by Mark A
I haven't tried it yet - mine will only get here when yours get here!
it seems I made another mistake by assuming things!

btw, can't wait for the Tpro

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