Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

***cobalt*** · 10-05-2011, 02:50 PM

I've been working on a redux review for the past few days, and it should be ready to post tonight...

***cobalt*** · 10-05-2011, 10:14 PM

OK, the redux review is up and live. Anyone interested in reading it will find it here:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...33#post1768333

Enjoy..

**Fidget** · 10-05-2011, 10:50 PM

cobalt, you are one weird dude.
A dude with strangely misplaced talents and wayyyy too much time on his hands.

Good thing there are folks like you here, otherwise this place would be wayyyy too serious.

**justinwyyau** · 10-06-2011, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Fidget

cobalt, you are one weird dude.
A dude with strangely misplaced talents and wayyyy too much time on his hands.

Good thing there are folks like you here, otherwise this place would be wayyyy too serious.

Agreed ... especially this comment, "I bought her a new dress. Still white, but tighter now at 25 and 27. And red socks. Spectacularly sinful!! Angie was an angel who could tempt the Devil to give up Hell itself."

*shudders*

Justin.

***cobalt*** · 10-06-2011, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Fidget

cobalt, you are one weird dude.
A dude with strangely misplaced talents and wayyyy too much time on his hands.

Good thing there are folks like you here, otherwise this place would be wayyyy too serious.

Originally Posted by justinwyyau

Agreed ... especially this comment, "I bought her a new dress. Still white, but tighter now at 25 and 27. And red socks. Spectacularly sinful!! Angie was an angel who could tempt the Devil to give up Hell itself."

*shudders*

Justin.

Sounds like you guys like it!!

I'm glad...
Truthfully, its just my little way of saying thanks to Dinkalot, and I hope it brings a smile to his face...

**visor** · 10-06-2011, 12:26 AM

cobalt, I'd like my 5 minutes back!

**amleto** · 10-11-2011, 06:41 AM

managed to have a little play with some of my little minions (tpro). I have 286/86 setup with zymax 67 @ 26lb, and same again but with head super power 67.

I was a bit perplexed that I could visibly see a difference in string thickness. I suppose I should add a photo later so that you can judge for yourself

I am surprised at how the strings have made such a big a difference to the behaviour of the racket. The head string definitely gives more 'ping' - very good for flat exchanges or punchy shots.

I expect that it loses control on slices but I haven't had chance to compare yet.

I didn't notice any difference in power, so thus far I'm preferring the Head string over the Ashaway.

**kevindd992002** · 10-15-2011, 11:12 AM

Do Panda Rackets have the same material as major Racket manufacturers like Yonex, Li Ning, etc.? Do they have the same frame strength and such?

**Fidget** · 10-15-2011, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by kevindd992002

Do Panda Rackets have the same material as major Racket manufacturers like Yonex, Li Ning, etc.? Do they have the same frame strength and such?

To save you time from looking through 5363 other posts on this thread, the short answer is : Yes, the same quality as the major names.

**Avenger** · 10-15-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by kevindd992002

Do Panda Rackets have the same material as major Racket manufacturers like Yonex, Li Ning, etc.? Do they have the same frame strength and such?

yes, it is same material.
IMO panda power rackets are more sturdy than yonex rackets..

best thing about the panda power pro edition is than there is no paint. it's only raw finish which means there is no such thing as paint chips.
I really like racket with beautiful paint such as Mx80 or VT80, but it will makes me scared to use it as I don't want to leave scar on those beauties. I got 1 paint chip on my Yonex racket and I regret it because the racket looks beautiful. same as my MX80 it becomes ugly really fast.
my Tpro is a glossy black racket, even if there is a chip you will not notice it until further inspection, makes me feel ok to go all out.
also the Upro can be strung as high as 42lbs (but I don't know about the play-ability lol..)

**j4ckie** · 10-15-2011, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Avenger

yes, it is same material.
IMO panda power rackets are more sturdy than yonex rackets..

best thing about the panda power pro edition is than there is no paint. it's only raw finish which means there is no such thing as paint chips.
I really like racket with beautiful paint such as Mx80 or VT80, but it will makes me scared to use it as I don't want to leave scar on those beauties. I got 1 paint chip on my Yonex racket and I regret it because the racket looks beautiful. same as my MX80 it becomes ugly really fast.
my Tpro is a glossy black racket, even if there is a chip you will not notice it until further inspection, makes me feel ok to go all out.
also the Upro can be strung as high as 42lbs (but I don't know about the play-ability lol..)

The racket to be strung that high was the Ultra 2, and I really wouldn't recommend stringing it with more than 35lbs. That is more than anyone in this forum needs anyway - probably more than anyone in the world really needs

To be safe, look up the guarantees at dcbadminton.net - those are the tensions the rackets reliably hold, and they should be high enough for anyone. Only the Precision has a lower guarantee, but it's more of a beginner/intermediate racket anyway, who shouldn't need high tensions.
So far, in my experience, the PP rackets were able to hold up against any tension I tried on them. I think the hardest I strung one at was 32lbs to try it out - even though the tension was much too high for me at that point, there was no deformation and no worry of breaking it.

**Avenger** · 10-15-2011, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by j4ckie

The racket to be strung that high was the Ultra 2, and I really wouldn't recommend stringing it with more than 35lbs. That is more than anyone in this forum needs anyway - probably more than anyone in the world really needs

To be safe, look up the guarantees at dcbadminton.net - those are the tensions the rackets reliably hold, and they should be high enough for anyone. Only the Precision has a lower guarantee, but it's more of a beginner/intermediate racket anyway, who shouldn't need high tensions.
So far, in my experience, the PP rackets were able to hold up against any tension I tried on them. I think the hardest I strung one at was 32lbs to try it out - even though the tension was much too high for me at that point, there was no deformation and no worry of breaking it.

oh yeah, my bad..
it's the U2..
but there is no way you played at 42lbs.. even a pro would not go that far.
the highest that I remember is 36lbs?

**j4ckie** · 10-15-2011, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Avenger

oh yeah, my bad..
it's the U2..
but there is no way you played at 42lbs.. even a pro would not go that far.
the highest that I remember is 36lbs?

Huh? Didn't say I played at 42, that's just how high Dan strung the U2 once. My highest tension was 32 or 33 lbs on a PP. Incredible netplay and serves, but no smash. And the clear was kinda short most of the time as well...anyhow, never strung one higher, not to mention playing

**Avenger** · 10-15-2011, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by j4ckie

Huh? Didn't say I played at 42, that's just how high Dan strung the U2 once. My highest tension was 32 or 33 lbs on a PP. Incredible netplay and serves, but no smash. And the clear was kinda short most of the time as well...anyhow, never strung one higher, not to mention playing

sorry for my misleading words lol!
I mean there is no way a person can use a racket with 42lbs (I didn't mean those statement for you, but for general people)

so.. any idea about revelation?

**demolidor** · 10-15-2011, 07:37 PM

Fiy cmiiw it was indeed the U1. The thread isn't called what it is for no reason

(easy enough to look up the yootoob vid as well to see it was a U1 being strung)

**DinkAlot** · 10-15-2011, 07:55 PM

42lbs. can be used, but not effectively compared to "normal" tension and not realistic because there's way too much stress on the string, racket and grommets.

As for racket strength, it's all relative. There are too many variables, known and unknown that can contribute to a racket's durability, whether good or bad. Temperature changes, humidity, shipping/packaging problems/damage, clashes and other impacts, good/bad string job all can contribute; and usually it's a combination many of these factors.

So again, it just depends on the factors and of course usage and the person using the racket.

The Revelation will be a very strong racket as it's going to be Toray 40T equivalent woven graphite.

Originally Posted by Avenger

sorry for my misleading words lol!
I mean there is no way a person can use a racket with 42lbs (I didn't mean those statement for you, but for general people)

so.. any idea about revelation?

**DinkAlot** · 10-15-2011, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Avenger

yes, it is same material.
IMO panda power rackets are more sturdy than yonex rackets...

In defense of Yonex, the new Voltric 70 and 80 and NR700RP so far have been very strong, taking 33lbs. with no problems and very playable with an ideal string pattern. These new Yonex rackets are among the strongest rackets this Panda has tried so far.

The VT frame is so good in terms of strength, Panda is experimenting with a Voltric 70/80 type frame for a new Panda Power racket.

No name on the racket, maybe Panda Power TITAN. Will be targeted as an offense oriented racket.